You don't know if being called an "ass" is bad? If someone called you an "ass", would you think it was an insult or a compliment or would you have no idea? Calling anyone an "ass" is an insult, regardless of whether the target is a church music director or the local mailman. Sean would have been just as hypocritical if the matter had happened between himself and a mailman, because the mailman did not engage in name-calling but Sean did. When tatakata told me that I should shut up and save my words for Sunday in church, he was telling me that I was out of line in analyzing a *church* incident from a Scriptural perspective, a topic that someone else initiated here. In other words, any opinion about a church incident expressed here is OK unless it is a Christian opinion and in that case the Christian should shut up about the church incident. The first "flame" in this thread was when Sean called someone an "ass". Another one was when tatakata told me that I should shut up.