recessed valve top cap things

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  1. JRgroove

    JRgroove Mezzo Piano User

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    The picture is of a horn I recently played and want to learn more.
    Is there a special name for the recessed valve caps (if that is what they are called). It was the first time I played a horn with this style. I instantly loved the feel. Now, I'm looking for other horns with a similar set up.
    Is there a reason a player would choose this set up over others?

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  2. kehaulani

    kehaulani Fortissimo User

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    Yes. Voodoo physics and snake oil salesmen. :D
     
  3. trickg

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    I think part of it is for aesthetics, but I know that Jason Harrelson has made some great strides in figuring out how to use weight and bracing to resolve tension and to maximize efficiency with trumpets, so the added weight plays into that with his horns.

    It's not something I would do for purely aesthetic reasons though - when you start changing and adding weight on a trumpet, depending on the trumpet, it can have a pretty profound effect on how that horn feels and responds.
     
  4. Bochawa!!!

    Bochawa!!! Forte User

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    How's this?

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    1949. Felts under buttons, not in caps. Not as dramatic, but the same idea.
     
  5. Bochawa!!!

    Bochawa!!! Forte User

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    It would certainly encourage round, rather than, flat fingers.
     
  6. JRgroove

    JRgroove Mezzo Piano User

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    That's also what I thought. However, the tech guy at the shop said the folks that play flat fingers like the recessed valve top. (it's possible I misunderstood :stars:) I'm like that sometimes.
     
  7. JRgroove

    JRgroove Mezzo Piano User

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    what is it?
     
  8. Bochawa!!!

    Bochawa!!! Forte User

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    It's a 28B Connstellation. This style of cap was used on all CONNs from 1949 through 1955, lacquered brass or nickel depending on the model.
     
  9. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    A good playing horn is the sum of all parameters, not just heavy valve caps. A standard weight horn generally does not profit from heavy valve caps. Intonation issues get harder to control and the span of available colors is considerably reduced. Heavy only makes sense when the whole horn is designed heavy.
     
  10. VetPsychWars

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    Buescher did that too from the mid-30s the 60s. The valve throw felt shorter because the buttons weren't as high over the mouthpipe.

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