Red rings, all that bad?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Pedagogy' started by JackTheMusician, Aug 11, 2015.

  1. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

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    The red ring is normal. Just wait until the scar tissue starts. Then it gets fun!
     
  2. redintheface

    redintheface Pianissimo User

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    Well so long as the red rings aren't anywhere else on his body, I think I'd be taking a quick trip to the doctor if that were the case! ROFL
     
  3. JackTheMusician

    JackTheMusician Pianissimo User

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    I can confirm they are on my lips haha!
     
  4. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    The red rings are proof that trumpet playing is an irritant. For some it irritates the lips. For some players the irritant is for all other musicians around them.

    As long as the ring is red, you are OK. When it turns blue, you need to reduce pressure.
     
  5. Tjnaples

    Tjnaples Piano User

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    And don't forget to start breathing again :woop:
     
  6. Donald trumpet

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    I get those rings around my lips and I call the red ring of shame
     
  7. GeorgeB

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    I get the red ring after playing for a few minutes but it fades fairly quickly, depending on how long I was playing. I really can not remember if I had the red rings in my younger playing days, but my lips are 50 years older now. And if I played with less pressure I would not get a good seal, so the red rings are just the side effect of hard steel on soft lips in my case.
     
  8. Rickyroughneck

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    It never has the chance to the stage of having rings, but I find my top lip deforms very easily (I feel like it is shaped in such a way that the top of the top lip juts out at a high angle) which negatively affects range and flexibility. I get this more in the low register than high which I attribute to the increased amplitude. Indeed I have only ever hurt my lips pumping out ff somewhere around bottom of the stave in brass band. Nowadays if I am tired, I just hold off the dynamics to allow for as little pressure as possible.
     
  9. pss

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    Just looking at the title I thought this post was a red herring, but no, it's legit.
    What we do with our lips playing trumpet is a bit unnatural, our body reacts in different ways; my favorite is the small overdeveloped protuberance some people get right in the middle of the top lip, it's looks very ... tingly.
     
  10. J. Jericho

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    Even with the slightest pressure, I get a red ring almost immediately. Always have.
     
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