rolled and unrolled embouchure...

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by crowmadic, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. crowmadic

    crowmadic Mezzo Piano User

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    I just read a thread talking about "rollled and unrolled embouchure". I have no idea what that is specifically. Is there anything on the web that can show/demonstrate what that is, and the differences?

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  2. Bachstul

    Bachstul Mezzo Forte User

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    I know other posters will answer better than me..... some like to curl their lips in to go high, draw them out going low.

    A rolled emb. would be like spitting a seed from your tongue. Unrolled would be like the noise a baby makes all the time, that rasberry noise, y'know.
     
  3. RobertSlotte

    RobertSlotte Pianissimo User

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    There are many different embouchures out there. Some roll in, some roll out, some do not roll anything but use lip to lip compression only and so on and so on....here is a cool page to read for you: Rune's trumpet page, EMBOUCHURE

    Personally I use the Stevens Costello embouchure.
     
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  4. TheSlur

    TheSlur New Friend

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    My bottom lip rolls out and I play just fine.
     
  5. Bob Grier

    Bob Grier Forte User

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    Unless you are having problems, I would ignore anything about rolling your lips. The last thing you need to do is worry about it when you are playing. By the way, my top lip rolls out and my bottom lip rolls in. It's worked fine for 50 years.
     
  6. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    YES, YES, YES!

    This is why I often do not like to post things in the open forum. It gives too many players something other than global warming, finances, valve oil, mouthpiece, brand of horn, lip damage and circle of fifths (you know: Jim Beam, Johnny Walker, Old Turkey, Smirnoffs, etc) to worry about.

    The context of the original post was that I noticed that it was hard for me to come back down after playing really high without removing the trumpet from my face. I fixed that with a mega dose of lip slurs - no dedicated embouchure change, no running from teacher to teacher. The teacher that I had at the time (and still do) was a natural talent and useless for my embouchure - which wasn't broken anyway.

    My belief is that the lips should be able to tense and relax while playing. If this is impeded by the embouchures geometry, then there are natural ways to solve this. Please keep in mind what some posters here claim that works for them may be far below OUR expectations.
     

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