Schilke Standard Bb configurations

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  1. DrunkIQ

    DrunkIQ Pianissimo User

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    All Schilkes are custom made. Schilke does have a set of standard configurations (B1, B2, B3, etc) that can be ordered. These configurations are combinatons of bore sizes and bell configurations that they feel work best together through the years of their R&D are are listed below.


    Bb models:

    B1:
    ML "step bore"
    L brass bell - only difference from B2 and B5

    B2:
    ML "step bore"
    M brass bell - only difference from B1 and B5

    B3:
    L "straight bore"
    M brass bell - only difference from X3

    B4:
    M "step bore"
    M brass bell - only difference from B6 and B7

    B5:
    ML "step bore"
    ML standard weight copper bell

    B6:
    M "step bore"
    ML standard weight Copper bell - only difference from B4 and B7

    B7:
    M "step bore"
    L brass bell - only difference from B4 and B6

    B8 -discontinued:
    M “step boreâ€
    S brass bell (#4 Seamless Brass Bell. Also used as standard bell on both Eb & D bells for E3L)

    B9 -discontinued:
    S “step boreâ€
    ML standard weight copper bell

    X3:
    L "straight bore"
    L brass bell - only difference from B3

    X4:
    XL "straight bore"
    XL valve casing
    L brass bell - only difference from X5 and X6

    X5 - discontinued:
    XL "straight bore"
    XL valve casing
    M bell (unconfirmed material) - only difference from X4 and X6

    X6 - discontinued:
    XL "straight bore"
    XL valve casing
    ML bell (unconfirmed material) - only difference form X4 and X5


    S22:
    L bore
    XL valve casing
    ML S-series brass bell

    S32:
    ML bore
    ML S-series brass bell

    S42:
    M bore
    ML S-series brass bell

    Optional Bells: - note: all Schilke bells are seamless one-piece!
    L sterling silver bell
    L "beryllium bronze" bell
    L standard weight copper bell
    L brass bell

    ML sterling silver bell
    ML "beryllium bronze" bell
    ML standard weight copper bell
    ML sterling silver S-series bell
    ML S-series brass bell
    ML brass bell

    M sterling silver bell
    M "beryllium bronze" bell
    M standard weight copper bell
    M brass bell

    S sterling silver bell
    S "beryllium bronze" bell
    S standard weight copper bell
    S brass bell


    Additional known options for B-series:
    heavy valve caps
    valve guard
    single mouthpiece pouch
    Single, double, triple, quad case
    Sound post for tunable bell models

    Additional known options for S-series:
    Faddis tuning slide
    heavy vavle caps
    vavle guard
    single mouthpiece pouch
    Single, double, triple quad case
    Sound post for tunable bell models

    Known after market items:
    Curry brass action rods
    Curry heavy weight vavle Ccaps
    Curry light weight finger buttons
     
  2. theoldmaz

    theoldmaz New Friend

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    Filling In The Blanks

    The B8, B9, X1, X2, X5, and X6 are discontinued models.
    The S model trumpets all have ML brass bells with soldered beads, different leadpipes from the other custom models and a braced tuning slide and only one bell to ballister brace instead of the usual two.
    Also the slide tubing on the B1 is .460 with a large brass bell; the B2 also has .460 tubing, but a smaller #3 bell; the B3 uses .463 tubing and the same #3 bell as the B2; the B4 uses .450 tubing and the same #3 bell as model B2 and B3; B5 and B6 both use a ML copper bell but differ in bore size, the B5 has .460 tubing and the B6 has .450; the B7 is a .450 bore and has the #1 brass bell. These are the standard configurations. All Bb and C's are available with Beryllium bells and, in the near future, sterling silver bells, at additional cost, of course. Additionally, they are all available as sliding bell models as well.
     
  3. bkmdano

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    Thanks for the new info. A sterling silver bell, sounds interesting. 8)
    I wonder how it will compare to the Bach sterling silver bells.
     
  4. DrunkIQ

    DrunkIQ Pianissimo User

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    bkmdano,

    The Schilke Sterling Silver bell showed up at IAJE this year... They are most likely going to bring one to TMEA, I will try to get down there and check it out to let you know more about it... I don't belive there is a set price for the bell yet but I am sure I will have some more info on it soon. As soon as I confirm that this is a catolog item then I will add it to the above

    theoldmaz,

    Thanks for your great post! I updated the bells!

    I fear posting the bore of the slides will confuse people and so I am a little weary of posting the measurements.

    Most of the Schilke designs are step bore (a.k.a mulitbore) designs. The measurment of the bore size of the slide is no indication of how the horn blows are responds. As you know various bore sizes in tubing bore, casing bore, valve bore, lead pipe design, and the bell taper will factor greatly into the responce, sound and blow of the horn.
     
  5. DrunkIQ

    DrunkIQ Pianissimo User

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    theoldmaz,

    can you confirm the material of the B4 bell?

    -marc
     
  6. theoldmaz

    theoldmaz New Friend

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    B4 bell

    Yes, I can. It's brass.

    In fact, it's the same bell used on the B2 and B3.

    Rick
     
  7. pangaea

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    additional options

    drunkIQ, additional options for the B series (though aftermarket) also include lightweight silverplated finger buttons and brass (also silverplated) valve stems. Both are made by Mark Curry, as are the heavy valve caps.
     
  8. DrunkIQ

    DrunkIQ Pianissimo User

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    got um! - thanks
     
  9. DrunkIQ

    DrunkIQ Pianissimo User

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    Updates to the bell matrix (include L standard weight copper and sterling silver bell in all sizes)! - some info for B9 added...

    -marc
     
  10. Tootsall

    Tootsall Fortissimo User

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    Yee HAW!
    Pangaea... are those options available through Schilke? or directly from Curry? To be strictly fair I think that the matrix should only deal with stuff that you can buy from Schilke directly, not after-market parts.

    Just a suggestion, your thoughts may be opposed...which is fine.
     

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