Screamers. . . ??

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by degree210, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    There is no "proven" method for turning anybody into a "screamer". Even enough practice is only part of the solution.

    Playing high notes is not being a screamer. Having the chops and brains to play high notes and make them musically fit is the qualification. Most do not even figure out how to play high notes, much less high notes with the "right" sound.

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  2. Bugler

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    My ex-sister in law was a screamer. She learned it from her mom. My niece is getting good at it. Chip off the old block.
     
  3. stevesf

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    When I think of "screamer" or "screach" trumpet players I don't necessarly think of them as lead players . So many other demands are required for quality lead playing like phrasing , tone , proper style and playing in the upper tessitura for greater periods of time. That is why many charts and band structure have the "screach" part in the 3rd trumpet chair. Sort of a specialist/solo player. Kenton's band did this with Maynard and others with great effect (the great Buddy Childers played lead in that band)
    As far as if anyone become a screamer player.....well that is subject to debate. I think just like an amazing athelete genetics play a big role . That is not to say that not everyone can develop an effective high range with proper training and technique. I just think facial/mouth structure have a key role in how the likes of Maynard,Chase,Cat Anderson,Faddis to name a few, sound the way they do. Equipment also can have something to with it (shallow cup mouthpiece, light weight horn etc.) but not always.
    IMHO....often younger players put too much emphasis in trying to high and loud at the expense of becoming a well rounded player that can do what ever the job given to them demands and thus perhaps able to work more. The modern trumpeter is required to be able to play different styles at the drop of a hat, often in the same gig or even the same chart. Sizzling high over the ensemble one moment then a few bars later sounding like a principle trumpet in the philharmonic.
    Exciting as it is being able to scream is only one small facet of being a great player ;)
     
  4. RAK

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    If you practice for 3 hours incorrectly, then you won't get any where. Blasting some notes for a couple of hours is not practicing. You have to play certain exercises for certain things. Blasting a couple of high notes in school doesn't make you a screamer.

    I am sure that Maynard does not scream for practice. He has techniques and certain exercises he played.

    You have to be a very good trumpet player who practices a lot. Also you have to be able to play in the upper register without any problems. Then you have to add in some more sounds.

    These three are really good screamers.

    Eric miyashiro, Wayne Bergeron, and Pat Hession are the screamers.

    YouTube - gonna fly now

    Most people that are screamers have trumpets that are lite. Maynard had a trumpet built for him by Monette which is lighter than any other Monette horn, but makes a huge sound.
     
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  5. Solar Bell

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    Let's remember that these three players are masters of the whole range and dynamic of trumpet playing.

    Patrick Hession has subbed for me on the lead book in our swing band, he has also played the 3rd book in my band and nails the 3rd trumpet part just as well as he plays the scream charts.

    Right on the money in both style and technique.

    THAT is what to strive for...to be a complete trumpet player.
     
  6. degree210

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    I'm not asking for a magic formula to get there, I want to know if I can. . . . I have been getting into Caruso's stuff, is that a good place to start? Any ideas on what i could practice to improve my ease of high register and overall playing ability, other than just playing melodies up the octave? Maybe playing in a larger room with more feedback, at least that's what I pulled from that recent post on practice room warriors, Rowuk!
     
  7. Markie

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    degree210 sez:
    I'm not asking for a magic formula to get there, I want to know if I can.
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    That's a different question than your original post which asks can anybody become a screamer trumpet player.
    If you have to ask if you'll ever become a scream trumpet player, then the answer is a definate no.
    You can not play scream trumpet as you do not possess the right attitude to get something like this done. Sorry but my experience is that people who ask if they can become something (in this case a scream trumpet player) generally never do.
    With that said, I sincerly hope you prove me wrong.
     
  8. degree210

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    You know what, I just think i will :oops: Im gonna prove you wrong just for saying i dont quite have the will power or the attitude:lol:
     
  9. rowuk

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    You missed the message that Markie was making. The first step to accomplishing ANYTHING in life is to get an attitude. It almost does not matter WHAT you practice and generally one method is not "better" than another even if many of the kiddies that try to brag here say so. Those players that achieve goals do so by their attitude about music and the instrument. It does not matter if they use Caruso, Clarke, Arban or the Lutheran Hymnbook. The real inner drive to get better, the fine tuned ears and common sense are the really important things. Many players never really get anywhere because they do not have the discipline to listen to their bodies. They would prefer to buy the magic book (that doesn't exist).

    Players that want it badly enough, make their opportunities whether it be a wind band, combo, orchestra or Salvation Army. Opportunities are the secret.

    My secret: the goal is not to prove Markie wrong. It is to become the best that YOU can regardless if you have the stuff to become a screamer or not!
     
  10. Al Innella

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    Anyone can learn how to play high,just remember it's technique of breathing, embouchure, and tongue placement,it has nothing to do with what room you practice in. The best way to learn these, is to study with a professional lead player.Most bands don't have a special scream chair anymore ,the lead is now expected to play most if not all of those parts.
     
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