Shakes

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Mamboman, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. Mamboman

    Mamboman Pianissimo User

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    Hello,

    Does anyone have any lead on how to do a shake? It sounds mad but I'm finding really hard to do.

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  2. rettepnoj

    rettepnoj Fortissimo User

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    It's probably several methodes, but I use the thumb under the lead pipe (close to the reciver) to phus the horn upwards. I also increase the preasure a little.
     
  3. Solar Bell

    Solar Bell Moderator Staff Member

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    Do a search here on TM. A lot of opinions and a few videos.

    Wilmer Wise says it best, "It called a shake, shake the horn".
     
  4. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

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    Lots of espesso should do it. :cool: Work on lip slurs. Start slow then pick-up the tempo as you get cleaner. Some of the coolest shakes I've heard/done are also slow! It takes time, patience and yes, practice. OR, you can just use your hands and move the horn back and forth (in/out) on your lips. You have less control and have to be careful to not lose the seal or it sounds really bad.
     
  5. wiseone2

    wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Staff Member

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  6. jiarby

    jiarby Fortissimo User

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    Listen to the end of "Handbags and Gladrags" by Bill Chase for a few other flavors. He did those with the tongue and airstream.

    Check out Nick...
    Flexibility and Trills - YouTube
     
  7. dangeorges

    dangeorges Pianissimo User

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    In addition to practicing lip trills slower at first (with metronome) and working up to speed, I offer these tidbits:

    1. Keep the air moving! Without keeping up the airstream intensity, no lip trill in the upper register will work.
    2. I keep my lips fairly "loose,", not locking on any one note. Again, air, lip, tongue, (and, in my case, a bit of jaw) go into this. My jaw shouldn't be moving, but I learned this way , and I can get a great "shake" in pretty much any range.
    3. As you get higher in pitch, the lip trill will be easier.
    4. Try a French Horn and use your tongue only - say "oooeeeoooeeoooee" and the horn should trill. It's almost too easy on a French Horn. This will give you the feel of what a true lip trill should feel like.

    Just my 2 cents...
     
  8. jbkirby

    jbkirby Forte User

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    I favor Wilmer's wisdom on this topic as it is the only way I can produce the proper sound, and I'm still not very accomplished at doing so. Maybe more expresso...:-P
     
  9. Bob Grier

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    Remember that a shake and a lip trill are two different type of embellishments
     
  10. Local 357

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    To shake? Just forget to take your morning drink...
     

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