Should I Relacquer my Horn?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by datrieuth, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. SteveRicks

    SteveRicks Fortissimo User

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    Want to ask a side question. I know lacquer of older horns wears super fast- i.e., all of my Olds horns, however, I thought the new lacquers (epoxy based?) hold up much better. Can anyone compare the new lacquers to silver? Thanks.
     
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  2. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    If this thing is black nickel (which is plated), why put plate on top of plate? Are you even sure that it will "stick"?
     
  3. Dave Mickley

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    Steve -I had a horn stripped and re-laquered by Tom Green recently and he told me the new laquer is very tough. I had asked about using a hand guard and he said it wasn't needed and I didn't need to worry about how I cleaned my horn.
     
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  4. Bob Grier

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    If the finish is coming off on your hands then something is wrong. The "Lacquer" finishes of today are very tough. Not really Lacquer but a baked on Acrylic finish. So something is wrong about the finish. If it is a black nickel finish it wouldn't have a lacquer finish. Sounds like a home done spray can job that is coming off on your hands.

    Do you play sharp on other horns? that's the first question that needs to be asked. Sounds like you don't play sharp on other horns because you noticed it on this one. My slide pull is the same no all my horns. Regardless of key or type. I would take the horn to a good repair tech. Also have a good player play the horn to chack it out.

    Then go from there.
     
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  5. BrassEye

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    Well, if the problem is being worsened by an overly shallow mouthpiece, then that is an obvious problem. In the OP's case, the mouthpiece in question is not an overly shallow one, therefore it is a moot point.
     
  6. datrieuth

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    As a matter of fact I tried my student horn with the same mouthpiece a while ago... in tune! So it's NOT ME! it's the horn. Im having a repair guy from Quinlan and fabish look at it now... He can provide a more hands on diagnosis (think that's the word Im looking for) of the problem! And like I said before I appreciate all of your input... It's in better more capable hands now! :D!
     
  7. codyb226

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    After you strip it to raw brass genius. Mark said strip it, then I said do what Mark said and maybe plate over the raw brass. I know it wont stick, just look at what I quoted and said.
     
  8. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    Cody, I am not a genius, but how would one strip nickel plate? You do not "strip" plate.
     
  9. codyb226

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    You knew what I meant, you remove the black plate to make the horn raw brass. Then you send it off to get silver/gold plated. That is if the OP wants to.
     
  10. Mark_Kindy

    Mark_Kindy Mezzo Forte User

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    Different horns will play differently... you can't expect to pull out the same on all horns, because that just doesn't make sense. The blows are different, the mouthpiece match is different..things change. Don't blame the instrument if you THINK it's "out of tune".

    I don't know, but I feel like the OP is making a big deal out of pulling out the tuning slide a bit. Just play the thing.
     

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