Silver Plating and outside playing in hot humide weather

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  1. trumpetnick

    trumpetnick Fortissimo User

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    As the title says....The silver plated parts on my trumpet and mouthpieces all go much more quickly dakr/black since I moved to Turkey, where I perform mainly outside on temperatures that go up to 50C and it is really humide...should I do anything to preserve the plating or just leave it as it is?
     
  2. daniel117

    daniel117 Pianissimo User

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    you have a lot of acid in your system probably and the temperature is making you sweat more thus corrode your trumpet

    maybe find some protective gear like a leather cover around the valve slides
     
  3. stumac

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    Probably a higher sulphur content in the air will cause the blackening faster, you could try a good quality car wax to give a protective coating.

    Regards, Stuart.
     
  4. J. Jericho

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    From what I've experienced personally and seen on others' trumpets, it's just a matter of time before the leather cover absorbs enough of the salts from your hand and concentrates them in a protected, moist environment, accelerating corrosion and focusing the irreparable destruction on everything under the cover. Anybody else have a different experience? The plastic covers I've seen had sharp edges that scratch the finish, and they're slippery when wet, too. Wearing thin gloves might work if you kept them laundered and can tolerate the appearance. Louis Armstrong had a solution to the problem; he used a handkerchief. Personally, I would wipe down the horn with a soft cloth to remove any moisture and then wipe it again with a quality non-abrasive silver polishing cloth before I put it back in the case. There's also a tarnish protector available that you can put in the trumpet case that its maker claims to fight corrosion. I don't recall the name of the product; can someone enlighten us? Maybe someone that has tried it?
     
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  5. SteveRicks

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    Stewart has a good idea. I've done such on a raw brass horn and it helped some. used some of the new car sealants though, not actual paste wax. In the 60's wax was wax. They have all these new dangled polymers today. Guess they work as well. Oh yeah, the point. I've tried it on raw braSs- anyone tried it on silverplate?

    With all of the super hard coatings they make for wood floors and the polymer sealants, you would think someone would come out with something to go on a silverplated trumpet to keep it from tarnishing.
     
  6. ChopsGone

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    I've acquired some of the newer finishes to try on raw brass horns, but since I haven't gotten around to trying them, won't mention any names. I normally use Renaissance Wax for protection, although TarniShileld is a great product for silver plating. Add one of John Ogilbee's sturdy anti-tarnish bags, and give the horn a good wipe-down after each playing, and the finish should last a lot better. I managed to transfer most of the finish of my first horn to my hands in a couple of years' use in the Houston, TX area, also known for its humidity and vile atmosphere.
     
  7. tobylou8

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    You could try gloves or a handkerchief then wipe down.
     
  8. GijsVis

    GijsVis Piano User

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    If you don't mind looking like a butler, wear gloves or use a handkerchief. Otherwise polish or wax your horn and wipe it after you played will help. I don't recommend the leather or plastic protectors, for the reasons mentioned above.
     
  9. tobylou8

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    I have a faux leather Bach "gaurd" you can have. It came with a silver Conn 60B. Hardest part to clean was under the "protector"!!!
     
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  10. GijsVis

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    Oh, what I've picked up from another, and what might also work is to put just a tiny bit of vaseline or grease on your horn, not so much that it gets slippy, but just that it covers everything and doesn't sneak out your hands like wet soap. I've put it on a horn last week, so I don't know yet if it helps a lot, but that guy was really convinced it would. I'll let you know in a couple of weeks (this, I will forget, PM if I do :lol:)
     

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