Silver vs. Gold

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  1. 12erlgro

    12erlgro Pianissimo User

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  2. larry tscharner

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    In a lot of cases its realy more cosmetic than anything. Im sure you will get a lot of technical replies listing the differences in sound and performance and they will be basically right but the biggest difference is price and prestiege. There is a cool factor to gold over silver but it can be overdone. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and everyone has an opinion. The price difference to me is too much for the exclusivity of it all IMHO. Best wishes.
     
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  4. Trumpet Dreamer

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    I have been told (by people on this forum) that plating does not change the sound of the horn.
    I contacted Anderson Plating and was told the same thing.
     
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  6. Trumpet Dreamer

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    Well, what have you heard?
     
  7. Trumpet Dreamer

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    Here is what a moderator stated right here on this forum with regards to this subject:
    There is no change in tone of one plate material vs. another material. This is due to the microscopic thickness of the metal (silver / gold).
    On the other hand, lacquer can alter the tone character, but only if applied too thickly.

    Now you know.
     
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  8. craigph

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    Read Renold Schilke's article on physics of brass instruments and scroll down to the part where he talks about "findings on the three different finishes of instruments"

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    Schilke Brass Clinic

    The take-away is where he says:

    "The findings were that plating does not affect the playing qualities of brass instruments. That is, the plated instrument and the plain brass instrument played identically. The lacquered instrument, however, seemed to be changed considerably. This instrument, which originally had played the same as the other two, now had a very much impaired tonal quality and the over-all pitch was changed."

    This was done some time ago and more recently some people on this forum have suggested that a modern, thin lacquer job such as you might get on an instrument refinished by Charlie Melk etc is not the same as the nitrocellulose lacquer used 'back in the day' and would likely not have as much of an effect as that in Schilke's experiment.
     
  9. SteveRicks

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    Difference in sound between silver and gold plating -none. I have horns with both. Any difference you perceive is in your mind. We tend to think of gold as warmer, maybe slightly darker, silver as brighter. Sort of like warm and cool colors in painting. They are all the same temperature. It is all in the head.
     
  10. Phil986

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    Steve Ricks is right. it's worth doing the experiment. Play a silver plated horn and a gold plated one. Record yourself with the best equipment available, try to tell the difference. Or have a musician friend listen, not knowing which one you're playing, and try to tell the difference. I seriously doubt any will be able to.
     

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