Single Radius Tuning Slide vs. Double??

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  1. MUSICandCHARACTER

    MUSICandCHARACTER Forte User

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    I hear lots of responses about a single radius (rounded) tuning slide vs. a double radius (Bach like) tuning slide and what that does to the sound of a horn and to the blow.

    I would value this board's input. How much difference do you think there is and what does that difference sound and feel like?

    Jim
     
  2. Heavens2kadonka

    Heavens2kadonka Forte User

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    A rounded tune slide seems to work really well with a resistant leadpipe, in opening the overall blow, and alleviating any "stuffiness" someone may be experiencing with the horn. Its worth looking into, I think a new tuning slide would cost less than a new leadpipe.

    What about the Taylor horns, with the really sharp curved tune slide?

    Van
     
  3. Bear

    Bear Forte User

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    Oh man... I used to play on a regular style (Bach style) tuning slide and then I got a new horn with the rounded one... To me it made a world of difference regardless of the new horn features. It was just smoother and an eaiser blow for me. Every horn I've had since has a rounded tuning slide.
     
  4. Heavens2kadonka

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    We need more horns out there that have different sets of tune slides/caps included in the package, like the Conn V1.

    Van
     
  5. bandman

    bandman Forte User

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    Why would a slide change the articulation characteristics of a horn? I can see major tonal and intonation changes, but this is the first time I've ever heard reference to articulation and slide shape.
     
  6. dcstep

    dcstep Mezzo Piano User

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    The resistance changes;therefore, the articulation changes.

    Dave
     
  7. Manny Laureano

    Manny Laureano Utimate User

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    Something I never thought much about until this thread: was Dave Monette the first one to come out with the completely round tuning slide? I looked at a Schilke and it was part of the way there but I can't come up with another major or minor maker that had that before Dave.
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  8. dcstep

    dcstep Mezzo Piano User

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    Good point Manny. I'm not sure about single-radius slides. I had a Yamaha in the 1980s with a single radius; however, I think that the "ovatte" slide with a decreasing-radius type design is clearly a Monette innovation. Looking back at photos of old horns it seems clear that designers certainly had a wide range of slides with varying degrees of squareness and roundness, but I can't find any trumpets older than the 1980s with a round slide, so, maybe, Dave thunk that one up also. :cool:

    Dave
     
  9. gzent

    gzent Fortissimo User

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    I bought a braceless, round tuning slide from Kanstul over a year ago.

    On my Zeus G it really helped notes above the staff and made the tone a bit darker. The slots loosened up as well. I've never used the original Bach style slide since.

    Greg
     
  10. Still Trying

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    I've got a collection of old records and pictures of jazz greats through the years at home, which I inherited from my Dad. One of the pictures is of Bunny Berigan. I have no idea what kind of horn he was playing, but it definitely has a single radius slide. It definitely dated back to at least the 1930's also.
     

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