Single Tonguing Speed

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  1. Roy

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    Do you have recommendations on increasing the speed of my single tonguing?

    Thank you.

    Roy
     
  2. amtrpt

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    Roy,
    First of all try to stay relaxed, especially the back of your tounge. The tounge is a fairly large muscle that extends a bit down your throat so throat tension will really slow you down. I like to practice actual speed in two ways. First go to the Arban multiple tounging section and start working on those studies single tounged, especially the easier ones at the beginning. Make sure that you are playing them slow enough at first to focus on relaxtion. Gradually start stretching yourself with the metronome speed. The second way I like to do it is without the trumpet. Take those same exercises from the Arban book and do them while you are walking or driving. This is a great way to practice exercising your tounge muscle and it also saves chops a bit.
    Hope that helps.
    Best,
    Andrew
     
  3. Roy

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    Thank you Andrew. I will try your suggestions. Any thoughts on improving the speed of multiple tonguing?

    Thank you again.

    Roy
     
  4. wvtrumpet

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    I don't want to speak in Andrew's place, but to speed up multiple tonguing, the back portion of the tongue must be very even and pardon the pun, articulate. Work the same early arbans studies that Andrew mentioned with just the back of the tongue. Try to make it sound as good as the front. You will take great strides when you make the back strong. Andrew please add to this, I always enjoy your comments...Neil
     
  5. amtrpt

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    Thanks for the comment WV. It's a good idea and something that I hadn't thought of. Just make sure that you keep your tounge and throat as relaxed as possible when doing it.

    This is a boring answer, but I do the same things for multiple tounging that I do for single. The only difference is that I do a lot more work away from the trumpet. I'm trying to get my tounge muscle used to a quick even articulation. for me the valve coordination comes second.
    Andrew
     
  6. Roy

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    Thank you for your thought. What do you mean by the back of the tongue? Are you referring to the "ku" attack?

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  7. amtrpt

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    Roy,
    That's what I assumed he meant.
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  8. claminator

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    Talk with some good clarinet players to get ideas on how to get a good single tongue.
    I would suggest keeping your ST very legato and smooth (at first) to keep it relaxed.
    The only problem I have with the practice away from the horn is that you don't work on that speed with the air\tongue balance.
    This is really where its at.

    Clammy
     
  9. trumpetnick

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    Gabor Tarkovi recomends practicing Hummel 3rd mvt by the same well as Andrew does with Arban. I haven't tried yet, but I believe that it works and could be much more fun than Arban tonguing exercises.
     
  10. Tiscione

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    These are all really great ideas. I will second the importance of working on skills such as this away from the trumpet with wind patterns like Andrew said. I remember trying to learn Soldier's Tale on the horn and having a bi$#$ of a time with it - I put it away for a few days and just practiced the quintuplet passages with wind patterns while walking around campus. While it wasn't perfect right off the bat, the coordination came much quicker. Even though this passage is multpiple tongued, I think the concept carries over really well.

    Also try Chris Gekker's 1 minute drill that is found in the front one of his articulation books.
     

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