Sleep Apnea and playing the trumpet

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by sounds7, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. Ed Lee

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    Such is indicative of potential sleep apnea. See a MD pulmonology specialist. I drink 8 oz. of water 1 hour before I go to bed and 8 oz. in the morning even before I have my coffee. Sleep apnea is serious ... it can kill! As of this past year, I've just been on a hydrated 2 liter feed of O2 at might. I've also been diagnosed with COPD!
     
  2. Reedman1

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    I don't think the CPAP is likely to cause sinus infections. I've been using a CPAP (nasty machine) for about 8 years now. For the first 6 years or so, I had no hint of any sinus problems; then about year 7, I started getting unrelenting sinus infections. It's not clear whether or not the CPAP was to blame. I had a horrible time with the infections, as I imagine you do, and eventually went to my ENT specialist. He found out that I had serious nasal polyps. They were, he said, among the worst he had ever seen. In short order, I had surgery to remove them, and since then I have had no infections. Surgery did not, unfortunately, improve my sleep apnea, and I still have to use the CPAP. I am glad I had the surgery, since I was suffering terribly from the sinus infections, though I have to drip steroids up my nose every morning to keep things in order. What fun. One other thing, though - I had the surgery about 9 months ago, and I took up cornet about four months ago, having never played a brass instrument in my life before. I'm making rapid progress and having a lot of fun, and neither sleep apnea nor a history of sinus problems seems to be having any adverse effect on my cornet playing. Good luck! I hope you're able to get some relief and regain your range.
     
  3. kehaulani

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    I use a Swift FX harness ResMed - Swift and nose pillows. Very minimalist. There's no pressure on the upper lip or anywhere that should cause chop problems.

    Regarding the infections, etc. as I was reading that part of your post, the first thing that came to mind isn't the CPAP device, itself, but that you live in New Orleans. I wonder if the humidity, roach problem*, moss, mildew and other things associated with Gulf living might not be a greater problem. Also, even if your CPAP device is involved, it would be as a consequence of other influences from the above and not that you are using a CPAP, per se.

    About dryness, doesn't your system have a water pan to moisten the air you breathe?


    *(Don't take offense at this. I'm from Hawaii and also have lived on the Gulf Coast, so I know that one can be clean, diligent, and still have those critters sneaking around.)
     
  4. rowuk

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    Actually, they only make contact with the nostrils. My upper lip with a moustache has no contact whatsoever to the entire mechanism. The pressure of the pillow against the nose is adjustable. With the right size, the pressure is minimal. I notice no pulling. I consider it to be as comfortable as something like this can be - although I am interested in inventing something better. The nose interface is about perfect, the swivel on the top where the hose attaches to is not optimal. It only rotates in one plane. Some kind of ball joint with multi axis rotation would be better. The straps are not bad, but could also be improved.
     
  5. gmonady

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    Wow... this makes sense and could possibly be complicating facial muscle function. Is it possible to get a more pliable material to make a tighter seal without having to use so much tension? If not, may I suggest doing daily "smile exercises" in which you practice a "corners up" smile to engage more of the upper diagonal dilators.
     
  6. gmonady

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    Actually, you are not alone, this is typically true of adults, and from my readings only 30% of adults truly benefit from surgery (as related to Sleep Apnea). In the pediatric population the outcomes are much better as the etiology in children as more to do with smaller mouth anatomy at a time when lymphatic tissue is developing.
     
  7. gmonady

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    No problem Mr. Corny... I won't loose any sleep over it.
     
  8. sounds7

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    I think Mr. Rowuk has convinced me to try a different setup and we will see if that improves things. I will also try the strengthening exercises.

    @kehaulani yes my mine does have a moisture pan that moistens the air, I have to turn it up at least two settings more moist in the winter than I would in the warmer months.
     
  9. Furcifer

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    Old thread; new member here... Today, they pulled the splints out of my head following septoplasty and turbinate reduction surgery. During the sleep study before that, they tried a nasal mask followed by a full mask on me and neither one sealed worth a damn. I am due for a follow-up appt with them where I suppose I'll get my CPAP machine, but this thread has prompted me to inquire about the nasal pillows... Any other advice is appreciated!

    For now, I'm just excited about being able to breath MUCH better than I have in YEARS. Also, it occurs to me that trumpet tone is influenced in part by the player's nasal cavities, in terms of volume and resonant configuration. Since mine have now been surgically enlarged, my tone should then be more sonorous and full, correct? Sound legit(so to speak)? That's the story I'm gonna stick to for now, anyway!
     
  10. Reedman1

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    Personally, I found the nasal pillow mask much more comfortable.
     

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