So what does it take to be a world class trumpeter

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by garmeth, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. garmeth

    garmeth New Friend

    Dec 4, 2010
    I'm curious as to what you guys think makes a world class famous trumpeter such as Wynton Marsalis, Sergei Nakariakov, Maurice Andre etc..... To me those guys are amazingly good no doubt but I don't understand how sergei can go from the ages 12-14 and already be able to solo ahead of some of the trumpeters that have been doing it for 30-40 years, is he really just THAT much better than them? I hear quite a few people locally and randomly on youtube that sound almost as flawless as well so I'm just wondering what sets somebody apart to be world class.

    This video of Ruben Simeo, he can't even play the high F at the end of the carnival of venice variation ( Indeed he played the rest of the song very well but I highly doubt that another person in the orchestra couldn't have played it better AND gotten the note at the end with good tone.)

    Ruben Simeo-Carnival of venice (Completo) - YouTube

    And was sergei really THAT good to be playing ahead of the entire orchestra at 13 years old here? Am I missing something?

    Sergei Nakariakov.J.Haydn-Trumpet Concerto in Es-dur.1Pt.N15y - YouTube

    Also now that we're at it, how much daily practice do you think Sergei put in to get from starting the trumpet at age 12 to apparently almost best in the world at age 14?

    *** I am in no way asking or suggesting that I want to be world class (because I don't) I'm just wanting your opinions on how they got so damn good in such a fast time.
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  2. Local 357

    Local 357 Banned

    Jul 1, 2011
    The prerequisite probably is an unusual devotion to the instrument and a tad to moderate bit of good physiology. Particularly where range is concerned. A set of chops that responds easily.

    If the instrument is a great joy to play? Then the young cat will automatically put in the time necessary to get good on it.

    So the goal is to develop a great love for the instrument first. If practicing seems a chore? Then you will be at a disadvantage.
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  3. PatMurphy

    PatMurphy Pianissimo User

    Aug 9, 2009
    Cherry Hill NJ
    One of the most important comments I have see on this site
  4. s.coomer

    s.coomer Forte User

    Mar 25, 2005
    Indianapolis, In
    I was lucky enough to see Sergei a couple of months ago as well as attend a master class with him. You must realize that his teacher was his father who is still touring with him. The question comes to mind how good could any of us be if we lived with our teacher?
  5. Brad-K

    Brad-K Piano User

    Jun 18, 2011
    (whispers) wanna know how to be truly great? really wanna know? grow your fingernails really long, then file them to a sharp point....then, you go out to the crossroads on a moonless keep playing until HE know who I'm talkin' 'bout. ...HE clips your nails, so they bleed, and he takes your horn and gives you a new DON'T look don't look at HIM. ....from that point on, you'll be able to play anything you can think of. ....You'll be great....TRULY great. .....there's just one thing....just one warning....once you do that....he owns your have to ask yourself somethin' boy.......what am I willing to give to be truly great?....what will I sacrifice?

    (looks around) now, don't tell no one I told you this (disappears into the night as the wolves begin to howl)

    I think I need some dinner right about now.
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  6. chenzo

    chenzo Piano User

    Jul 18, 2008
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  7. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    World class consists of so many things that normal people don't understand. An insatiable drive to succeed and above all being in the right place at the right time. Without opportunities, there is no development. There is no formula, no list of things necessary. The truly world class have no choice.
  8. Local 357

    Local 357 Banned

    Jul 1, 2011
    Yes I agree. Opportunities are very important on any level. At the beginning to even have some kind of instrumental music program is an opportunity.

    Later on if there are no paid gigs at all? Not even weekend show and dance band at the local Holiday Inn? That is a disadvantage to the trumpet player. Much improvement occurs only after the young cat simply MUST play his ax in order to make ends meet.

    When I'm slow i try and fill my week up with as many rehearsal band gigs as possible. Even if it is only the local junior college community bland. Sorry! I meant "band".

    To quote myself:

    My problem lately is that practicing DOES seem to be a chore. Fortunately I've found some tricks which at least maintain my interest during down periods. What i try and force myself to do is at least my own personal warm up routine. If this is the only thing i do? I won't lose touch of my quickness.

    Oftentimes just dragging myself into doing the warm up will awaken the urge to do other fun stuff. next thing i know I'm playing jazz licks all up and down the scales transposition etc.

    i don't know if any of what i do will ever lead to "greatness" but I surely know what the result will be if I don't do enough.

    Another matter: i sometimes wonder if the truly great specifically sought out greatness. Probably some did. However i get the idea that those that became great held their love of the horn on a higher pillar than the self absorbed goal of being famous.

    Maybe if I hadn't been called away to join the porno film industry at such an early age i could have advanced on the trumpet more...
  9. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    You mean audio porn = high notes specialist?
  10. wiseone2

    wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Staff Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    I met Wynton when he was 18 and fresh from New Orleans. I think subbing for me on the Broadway show, "Sweeney Todd" was his first pro gig. He was amazingly gifted and everyone was blown away when they heard him.
    Sergei played with the Brooklyn Philharmonic when he was 14 years old. He won a contest that was sponsored by the orchestra. He was a great player, and really a nice young kid...........I won't speak about his dad. His dad was all over me when he found out about my relationship with Wynton:cool:
    These are special players, so is Ruben!

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