Some pitching tips by my conductor

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by KidzNia, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. KidzNia

    KidzNia New Friend

    Nov 26, 2007
    I rarely or almost never heard this being mentioned in any forum about this way of pitching. May be due to my ignorant, so please forgive me. But, it does work and it works well. It does no harm and why not give a try. This is what told to me:

    When pitching low notes try to adjust your air stream such that it aims at the centre of the the mp where the 'hole' is located.
    When pitch is getting higher, adjust your air stream lower and lower, such that when you reach your 'highest' note(usually octave G or higher), you should be aiming near the lower part of the mp near to the rim.


    <----- :Air Stream

    ......... : Lols. dont bother about this, just to make the mp look in shape
    __ /
    <---- 'Hole' : Mouthpiece
    ....\ __

    Low notes:

    __ /
    ....\ __

    High Notes
    __ /
    ( or lower but obviously not straight, the air stream should be tilted but
    __ <-------- hard to be drawn)
    ....\ __
  2. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    ask the person that told you that what to do when playing music that jumps around - like the Carnival of Venice by Arban. You would be so busy pointing your air around that probably nothing would work.

    The description is also exactly the opposite of an older method called the pivot system. When using this, you change the angle of the horn depending on how high you are playing. You would point the bell of the trumpet down the higher you go. This took pressure OFF of the upper lip. It had nothing to do with pointing the airstream! Modern mouthpiece design makes this no longer necessary.

    Looking at the geometry of the mouth, the air is guided between the tongue and the roof of your mouth (no direct shot to the horn possible), then has to hang a sharp curve around your teeth and then get the lips moving. There is a certain amount of turbulence in the mouthpiece cup (which is good, it supports the lips with an air cushion). Then the air gets into your horn - much more slowly than one would care to believe! If we add tonguing into the equation, the airflow is even more "disturbed"!
    There is no advantage in trying to blow into the hole. Tone production on a trumpet works much differently!
    In fact, if we could get the lips to vibrate by themselves, we would need no air at all (except to stay alive). I glued a small loudspeaker to a mouthpiece once and ran some waveforms through the horn. It is amazing what results you can get! You can measure the impedance, efficiency and intonation of the horn! Unfortunately, this does not tell you anything musical............
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2007
  3. BobList

    BobList New Friend

    Nov 10, 2003
    Baltimore, Md.
    It FEELS like you are blowing to the center to play's just a good way to describe jaw/lip position while playing. If that feel works for you, you are playing correctly.

  4. confuoco

    confuoco Pianissimo User

    Nov 11, 2007
    I would get away from this line of thinking. If something clicks in your mind and it works ok but this is not the way to go about playing trumpet. IMHO
  5. brem

    brem Mezzo Forte User

    Sep 13, 2007
    Quebec City, QC, Canada
    My airflow is actually going higher when I play high.... I think.
  6. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

    Mar 23, 2006
    Parts Unknown
    The use of imaging is a great technique; I love to use metaphor and analogies when teaching. If this kind of aiming works for you, great! The next step is to let it evolve to a natural "feel" for you--the less concentration involved with the mechanics of playing, the more we free up for musical considerations. Have fun!

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