Stevens - Maggio -farkas!?!?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by frankmike, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. frankmike

    frankmike Piano User

    Dec 5, 2008
    :shock: Guys, I am completely confused. I have embouchure, that I am more or less confident with (high C is playable limit) but I was searching the net and I found tons of pages and articles that suggest that farkas is bad, maggio is strange and stevens is the best. I tend to take everything with a grain of salt, so I do not beleive them at all. Maybe farkas I concur it reeks.

    Now can you tell me, first hand all the benefits of stevens and all downsides, and compare to farkas and maggio. Also I have no idea what my embouchure is called , so I yust call it frankies embouchure
  2. wiseone2

    wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Staff Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    What's in a name?
  3. Mamba21500

    Mamba21500 Piano User

    Feb 26, 2009
    It really doesn't matter what sort of embouchure you use, Frankies embouchure works for you, so why pay attention to what the big names use? If on the other hand your embouchure isn't working for you, you should go and get a private tutor, and get him to help fix it, if you find out that one of these embouchures work for you, go for it!
  4. Ed Kennedy

    Ed Kennedy Forte User

    Nov 18, 2006
    Farkas was a pretty good horn player. He survived Fritz Reiner along with his pals Jake and Bud. If you've ever looked at his emboucher study book you will see many variations (looks like horn porn). The common thread was that every one of those guys could play. Wind and Song, baby!
  5. Back at it

    Back at it Pianissimo User

    Feb 12, 2010
    Western, NY
    I try hard not to pay a lot of attention to mine. I always pay attention to the sound I make, being relaxed and not becomming over fatigued. As a come back player it still works for me! When I was a kid and overplayed at times I would pay attention to it but rest and fundamentals always got me back to playing shape.
  6. trumpetnick

    trumpetnick Fortissimo User

    Nov 16, 2005
    Vidin, Bulgaria
    If you want to make simple test confirming (or maybe disprove) that your (whatever it is) embouchure and breathing is working, perform to following simple test:
    Starting from low g and transposing half step up to high C

    1. Play a scale in slurred quarters in 2 octaves
    2. Same as #1 but articulated
    3. Same scale subdivided in sixteens notes (like stamp exercises) in double tonguing
    4. same s #1 but in flutter tonguing.

    If all 4 are working well, that you have no reasons to worry. If 3 and 4 are not working well you need some breathing, embouchure or tongue use adjustment (or combination of the 3). If number 2 is not consistent either than you have some serious issues to solve.

    These exercises are just tests, not a way to work through, though they may be helpful.
  7. Back at it

    Back at it Pianissimo User

    Feb 12, 2010
    Western, NY
    I like that test, trumpetnik. I'm goint o give it a try and see what happens. I think it will work out well for me. Some times my sound around low d,e gets weak b/c I, at times, have a break there in my buzz.
  8. Markie

    Markie Forte User

    Jan 4, 2009
    Clarksburg, WV
    What trumpetnick said.
  9. gbdeamer

    gbdeamer Forte User

    Oct 16, 2008

    I agree.

    I have no clue what name my embochure goes by.

    I can't roll my tingue, and thusly can't flutter, so does that disqualify me from the assessment process?
  10. wiseone2

    wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Staff Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Which embouchure did Herbert L. Clarke use?
    I use the Wise embouchure :-)

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