Stop brand/model shaming!

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Clarkvinmazz, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. Clarkvinmazz

    Clarkvinmazz Forte User

    May 11, 2013
    Oberlin, Ohio
    I've just noticed that there are some trumpets people have biased opinions about, or that everytime they are mentioned someone has to start shouting in protest. I've seen this most with bachs and olds ambassadors, although there are certainly others. No matter what your opinion on the horns, they are widely used and talked about for a reason. maybe you didn't have the best experience with the particular horn but that doesn't give you permission to jump up screaming protest every time they are mentioned. There are always exceptions to horns, both good and bad-I have a friend who has an early bundy that out plays most of my instruments! I'm tired of reading comments that say "strads are the worst horn you can buy!" Or something similar. For a lot of younger people who need a nice all round horn, they're great, even the new ones. (edit- this is just to make a point that they're not bad, and would be okay for students getting their first pro horn, or something similar. I'm not saying that I think the new bach are really good, but they're not terrible either.)I'm sorry about the rant but this is just something that really gets on my nerves.
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  2. Dennis78

    Dennis78 Fortissimo User

    Feb 1, 2015
    Now it is an open forum, with members who are full of options!
    I can't see why people waste their time on anything but Holtons! I guess since they are no more
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  3. larry tscharner

    larry tscharner Forte User

    Apr 30, 2010
    dubuque iowa
    Never having owned a Holton, my guess is that there is a reason why they are no more. OK just kidding about that. As for Strads, they seem to be the standard by which all others are measured, either bad or good. Let me be the first to chime in to say to each his own. As in cars, colas, vacuum cleaners and women, everyone has a favorite make and model. Variety IS what makes the world go round. As you probably already know it's Getzen here, but not everyone is a fan and that's ok by me. I may be mildly disappointed if someone doesn't agree, but they are welcome to respectfully disagree. Though they would be wrong, wrong, wrong. Best wishes.
  4. kehaulani

    kehaulani Fortissimo User

    May 14, 2011
    Hawaian homey
    I likely missed the villagers coming down the street with torches and pitchforks, Clark. :D But you seem to be doing a pretty good job of "shouting in protest" or "jump[ing] up scream[ing] in protest", yourself.

    For my own part, when if comes to Bachs, I think I only mention them in response to some other's opening the subject and I usually say something like, "I just never took to Bachs" and that's the truth and it's also not saying anything negative about Bachs or those who play them.

    Anyway, I like all makes except for:

    New York Bach Mercurys
    Bach 180 37 Strads
    Bach strad Philadelphia Cs
    Conn C/Bb/A wonderphone cornets
    conn 80a victor new wonder cornets
    Conn 22b New York Symphonies
    Conn "transitional" model 22bs
    Conn 5a Victor cornets
    Dillon music flugels with rose brass bells and
    Selmer Paris Maurice Andre model piccolos

    These I hate! :twisted:
  5. ConnDirectorFan

    ConnDirectorFan Fortissimo User

    Nov 5, 2010
    United States
    I hate those darn Amatis

    (the irony being I own 2)
  6. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

    Mar 21, 2006
    But then who will stop the hype train for bad instruments?
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  7. BrassBandMajor

    BrassBandMajor Fortissimo User

    Jan 13, 2015
    Yes, clarkvinmazz. I respect your opinion.
    AS you have stated, there are some people that say " I hate strads" or "strads were not the best horn out there" etc etc.
    BUT as you say, they are opinions of other peoples too.
    I think it would be nice to respect their opinion too :D
    For all means if you CAN'T be bothered, just ignore and go with the flow, that is my 2 cents.
    I would be glad to test and have a Strad in the road!
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  8. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

    Dec 22, 2008
    Shaming? I don't know about shaming. I own both "shamed" (?) horns. I'm not ashamed of either. Are they "go to" horns? No. Considering their competitors for lip time, Getzen, Holton, Blessing, Conn, it's nothing to be ashamed of.
  9. JRgroove

    JRgroove Mezzo Piano User

    Apr 8, 2014
    Kansas City
    I'm having fun with my Getzen. I seem to have put my LA olds Ambassador away in favor of the Getzen. However, I like the sound of the Olds. I'm sure it will be out again in the future.
  10. Dale Proctor

    Dale Proctor Utimate User

    Jul 20, 2006
    Heart of Dixie
    I've played a '76 Bach Strad for about 30 years now. Great instrument, and I've owned/played many other makes and models during that time. None of the others just seemed quite as good at everything as the old Bach. To each his own, though. Just because a certain model or brand of professional trumpet doesn't work for you doesn't mean the instruments are junk.

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