Stuffy/leaky horn!

Discussion in 'Vintage Trumpets / Cornets' started by A.N.A. Mendez, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. A.N.A. Mendez

    A.N.A. Mendez Utimate User

    Oct 25, 2005
    Sunny Ca.
    Working on a high end Olds with issues in the tune slide/crook area, leaking air after re-soldering the two inner pipes onto the crook. Blow in one end, hold finger over other end PSSSSST leaking air.. :-?
    Replace water key cork.... Still leaking badly..... (mutter bad words)


    Attach 1 foot hose to one end, cork on other end, submerge in water..... Blow

    Ah Ha! air leaking around little pad that has raised hole for water key pad..... Look close, its up and un-attached on one end. Remove and examine, crud city, been leaking for many years which may be why it was put in closet and not played much.Clean to bare metal, re-solder, Ta Da ! Tight like a tiger.......

    Moral: Never give up on a stuffy horn.

  2. barliman2001

    barliman2001 Fortissimo User

    Jul 5, 2010
    Vienna, Austria, Europe
    My Ganter V8 became stuffy from one moment to the other... turned out to be a very small leak just behind the 1st valve saddle, just where the valve slide joins the valve...
  3. Peter McNeill

    Peter McNeill Utimate User

    Jan 30, 2009
    Melbourne Australia
    A great story, and a happy ending.

    I'd take my leaky horn to my Tech. Replacing a cork is about my limit of fixing. I'd avoid the raised blood pressure, increased stress and anxiety, and the sleepless nights. Leave it with my tech and pick it up next week, ahh the stress of the drive to the tech is also about my limit.

    I really do admire persistence and problem solving skills you guys have. I have neither - so rely on others with that expertise to help me.
  4. A.N.A. Mendez

    A.N.A. Mendez Utimate User

    Oct 25, 2005
    Sunny Ca.
    Well, just do everything imaginable to (and sometime wreck ) 300 cheaper horns, you are half way there! :-)
  5. King Leopardi

    King Leopardi Pianissimo User

    Oct 2, 2008
    I purchased a pretty beat-up 1964 Olds Mendez trumpet a while back. Sounded pretty stuffy, so I took it to my repair tech to check the compression, since the valves showed a fair amount of wear. A test showed that it had under a quarter pound of pressure, so I sent it in for a rebuild. Got it back about a month later, and if anything, it sounded even stuffier. So back in the closet it went.

    I took it out a few weeks ago and removed all of the valves and slides and cleaned it out with warm, soapy water, then rinsed, dried, oiled and put everything back together. Found that I couldn't hit any notes with it.

    So, I got looking down the bell with a flashlight. Far, far down in the bell was a rusty cleaning brush. I managed to get it extracted, and the trumpet plays like a champ. Fun.
  6. A.N.A. Mendez

    A.N.A. Mendez Utimate User

    Oct 25, 2005
    Sunny Ca.
    Wow! I've been there too!, a brush, a lizard (from AZ.), a finger button.........and a small screwdriver! OY
  7. Efig

    Efig Piano User

    Sep 29, 2016
    Long Island
    Water key leaks aren't as bad as tuning slide leaks.....
  8. operagost

    operagost Forte User

    Jan 25, 2009
    Spring City, PA, USA
    There are clearly a lot of techs who aren't players. I couldn't send a horn back like that. I'd have to at least call them, and ask if they want me to diagnose the other problem.
  9. JDay

    JDay Pianissimo User

    Nov 20, 2007
    Wenatchee, WA
    You know...

    I have never tried to play a tiger before. Not sure I would want to try blowing in either end! Though I am curious as to how our OP came about this knowledge.

    Just sayin.. ;-)

    Unless of course he was refering to a tiger trumpet. Though as far as comparisons go that would not be that high of a standard.
  10. A.N.A. Mendez

    A.N.A. Mendez Utimate User

    Oct 25, 2005
    Sunny Ca.

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