Suggestions On Good Reasonable Trumpets

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by mheffernen5, Apr 11, 2004.

  1. dcstep

    dcstep Mezzo Piano User

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    Back to the original thread, the Jupiter Tribune XOs are excellent pro horns and a price point well within your budget. I like the reverse leadpipe setup with the medium or fast-flare bell a bunch.

    I've played around six and they've been very consistant, with good tone and intonation.

    Your price point includes tons of great horns, including Bach Strad, Conn Vintage One, Yamaha Xeno, various Kanstuls, the Stomvi USA, etc., etc. If you shop around you'll find those horns generally from $1300 to $1650.

    Dave
     
  2. dcstep

    dcstep Mezzo Piano User

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    bugler16 Pianissimo User

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    Go for a Strad even if it is a used one. I have a couple reasons for saying this some more biased than others.
    1) I have tried many, many, many brands of horns and Bach has always come out on top (for Bb's anyway).
    2) You can get a used Strad for a great price, I paid $700 for my first.
    3) Whatever you pay for a used Strad as long as you take care of it if you ever want to sell it you should get the same back out of it.
    4) A Strad is a standard, accepted pro horn all over the world so even if you get one and 3 years from now you want another horn that's great but for the time being you'll have a solid pro horn that will be acceptable in every forum.
    5) I love my Strads, you may not like them but it will give you a solid horn and a chance to check out all of the other horns offered in todays market without hindering your ability to play at your best.
     
  4. mheffernen5

    mheffernen5 Pianissimo User

    Thanks a billion! As someone earlier said, I guess I am just confused. At least I had a great trumpet lesson yesterday...good enough to look at Bach strads...
     
  5. dizforprez

    dizforprez Forte User

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    dont apologize for the way you see things, just know that you will be given alot of advice, some good and some bad... and it can be hard to know the differnce.

    i would say check out this link instead of going the ebay route.

    http://www.dillonmusic.com/used_instruments/usedinstruments.asp?instrument=Used Bb Trumpets
     
  6. bigaggietrumpet

    bigaggietrumpet Mezzo Forte User

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    Definitely go to that link. Dillon Music has tons of horns, and can definitely help you find something that will not only fit you now, but help you develop into a better player.
     
  7. gzent

    gzent Fortissimo User

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    mheffernen5,

    1) About eBay:
    I'd be very careful about buying anything on eBay, its easy to get ripped off. If you are going to buy a horn on eBay then I'd stick with the horns that have reputations for high quality.

    Used pro horns that are well respected but not too expensive include:

    Bach Strads made in mid 70's or earlier
    Benge 3X made before 1970
    Getzen Eterna 900 (original design, not sure of years)
    Kanstul (newer may be better)
    Olds made before 1970
    Schilke (any age)
    Yamaha made after 1990

    Also, consider the Zeus G. Its essentially a very good Strad design made by Kanstul. I really like mine. At this price (around $1000) it is hard to find a better horn than Zeus, but it is easy to find an abused or poorly assembled Bach.

    2) About trumpet lessons
    A great idea. In a town the size of Cedar Rapids there should be some decent pro-level trumpet instructors, trumpet players not directors.

    3) About brand loyalty:
    Forget about it. Just because most people play Bachs and Yamahas doesn't mean that you have to. Be willing to try a bunch of horns and willing to change horns when you "grow" out of one and into another.

    An interesting thing about Bach, Benge, and many other brands, they built their reputation when they were small, custom made horns that only top pros bought directly from the builder and the older horns are considered to be worth more and play better because of this fact. When a horn builder is bought out by a large company, as was Bach, Benge, King and so on, the contruction often suffers to increase production.

    Tom Turner can give you more info on this than just about anyone.

    4) About Intermediate horns - why bother, save your money and get a pro level horn.

    Hope this helps,

    Greg
     
  8. dcstep

    dcstep Mezzo Piano User

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    Greg, Schilke was afflicted with the Yamalloy episode just like Yamaha. The Schilke Loyalist tells which vintages are problematic. With that in mind, the earliest Yamaha are excellent and include many horns prior to the 80s.

    Dave
     
  9. gzent

    gzent Fortissimo User

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    Dave,

    Sorry, my mistake. What years did Yamaha/Schilke have the valve issues? Also, does anyone know what years that Getzen left the "Classic" Eterna design and when they went back to it?
     
  10. dcstep

    dcstep Mezzo Piano User

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    No, I'm busy at work or else I'd look it up. Anyone interested can find it on The Schilke Loyalist site.

    Dave
     

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