The single best trumpet advise ever!

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Walter, Jan 12, 2007.

  1. Walter

    Walter Piano User

    Sep 11, 2006
    We all seem to have a memory of being given significant advise that continues to help our daily lives.

    I (and I am sure many others) would love to hear the single best piece of advise TMers have been given about playing the could be technique....hardware....or musicality. It would be helpful to know who gave you the advise and how it affected your playing.

    Sometimes the best advise is simple and just given as a "throw away" line in conversation....

  2. tpter1

    tpter1 Forte User

    Jan 12, 2005
    Northern New York
    I've got several, Walter. But the one that sticks out most in my mind, that really began a significant change in my playing style, came from Jim Thompson. He was up here giving a masterclass several years ago. We were in one of the rehearsal rooms over at Crane. Very tall space, large open room, wood floors, concrete walls with some sound baffles on them.

    He said "It doesn't have to be loud. It has to be in tune." And then he played something. From Shosty 7th, I think. What he played is really irrelevant, anyway. It's what happened afterwards. He stopped playing, and the room continued to ring for several seconds afterwards. He was not playing loudly. But the room rang in a way that I'd never heard it ring before. (I spend a good deal of time over there, and I've yet to hear it ring like that since, either). That did it for me. I have since been in pursuit of that quality of playing. That phrase and example totally changed my approach to the horn.
  3. Hardnut

    Hardnut Pianissimo User

    Feb 24, 2006
    South England
    For me, the best advice I ever received was just after I had broken my arm skiing and was upset because it was making me play oh so so so so badly!

    TMers made me view the matter from a different perspective, saying that this six week period would be the perfect time to develop my trumpet playing WITHOUT using too much pressure, something I've had problems with in the psat.

    From that moment, I saw my skiing accident in a whole new light: not merely as an annoying inconvenience but a divine intervention! That 6 week period where I was only able to use my right hand helped me and my pressure so much; undoubtedly , I am now far more capable of improving and progressing than I would have been when just loitering around the "shove the horn onto your lip as hard as possible" technique!

    So...TMers - THANK YOU!!!

    Not only for the instance above, but for every little piece of advice, every "congratulations" or suggestion - THANK YOU!!!

  4. Walter

    Walter Piano User

    Sep 11, 2006
    Thanks Glenn and Chris for kicking this off for thought already!

  5. Derek Reaban

    Derek Reaban Mezzo Piano User

    Jun 16, 2005
    Tempe, Arizona

    Thanks for sharing that story! I could literally hear his sound in that room based on your description (his sound is so similar to my friend here in Phoenix). I’m also amazed at how this same example from his Yamaha Day of Trumpets presentation transfers through the speakers on my computer at home. Here’s a quote from his talk:
    As you mention, live examples of this “sound†are what did it for me too. Hearing Jim Benitez in Phoenix in lessons, rehearsals, concerts, jobs several times a week for several years put this sound in my head. Having a lesson with Charlie Schlueter in my living room reinforced everything Jim had told me. Hearing Mr. Herseth live. Hearing Jim Thompson live. Hearing David Krauss live. Hearing Michael Sachs live. Hearing Manny live with that amazing resultant tone demonstration in Denver.

    Pursuing the quality that I have heard in these players’ sound, and so many others that I have been fortunate to hear live, is what helped me to question my approach to sound production and investigate ways to get closer to that ideal model.

    Oh, and just about everything in this post!
  6. camelbrass

    camelbrass Mezzo Forte User

    Nov 5, 2003
    Dubai, UAE
    Hearing great players produce great sound effortlessly is always inspirational. Resonance at any dynamic is certainly something the great players have in common and one of my goals.

    The best piece of advice I've had so far comes from ML. Basically, to paraphrase, work dillegently and trust that what's coming from the bell and being heard in the audience is what you intend. I have always interpreted that as being the crucial link between trumpet playing and music.


  7. trumpet blower88

    trumpet blower88 Mezzo Piano User

    Jun 15, 2005
    Flagstaff, AZ
    Mine came from a Drum Corps audition camp that I attended in November. It was the end of the camp, we were all sitting listening to final announcments. The director was talking about the emails that would be sent out the next day telling us basicaly if we had made the corps or not.
    He said "For those of you that don't make it, just remember that if this is the worst thing that's going to happen in your life, you're going to have a pretty good life."
    It's not really trumpet related, but it's a great outlook on auditions. I've never been great at auditions and when I auditioned for my first year of highschool I blew it, I made the very bottom band and it hit me really hard. But knowing what I know now, it really wasn't that bad. And like he said, if thats the worst thing that will ever happen to me, I'm in for a heck of a life.
  8. CJH

    CJH Pianissimo User

    Mar 15, 2005
    Boston, MA
    Glenn -- I remember that masterclass vividly, and that demonstration in particular. That moment was really an "ah-ha!" moment for me and changed the way I think about playing.

    I like the way he talks about giving the note "spin". It makes me think of a more finessed style of playing rather than a forceful one. Another analogy imparted upon me by one of my former teachers is to imagine throwing a baseball across a field: rather than throwing it harder, imagine trying to throw it further... A lob rather than a bullet. For me this brings to mind a very relaxed, resonant style of playing.


  9. B15M

    B15M Forte User

    Dec 30, 2003
    Monroe Ct.
    I can't put it into one time or one thing that changed my playing but, I can paraphrase.

    The thing that helped me the most was (is) taking lessons with Charlie Schlueter. Now I have to pick one idea that we worked on and I will say: to always look for a different way to hear or see the music.
    Listen to how the violin plays or the singer singes it.
  10. GitRdoneJazz

    GitRdoneJazz New Friend

    Sep 12, 2006
    Best advice I recieved was when I was in high school at band camp from one of the college student teachers. He just finished handing out the techincal routines we would be playing at the start of each session and told us he expected us to run through these every night as well. One of my buddy's made a crack - like "We just wanna play music, not this crap". An exchange ensued something like this:

    "I see you're into guns" (Because of the Winchester hat no doubt)
    "I'm sure you know that you never point a gun at anything you don't want to kill - right".
    "Treat your trumpet the same way - Don't ever put your trumpet to your chops if you're not going to play musically - Even scales should be played as if it was the greatest musical piece you've ever played".

    Of course we all laughed, but ya know what - He was right.

    As I work through my comeback, I think of this every time I pick up the horn. I try to make the most musical sound I can with every note I play. Even boring technical studies is music - Ya just gotta treat it that way.

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