The Sound Of Keyed Brass

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by gsmonks, Mar 20, 2016.

  1. Dale Proctor

    Dale Proctor Utimate User

    Jul 20, 2006
    Heart of Dixie
    I've spent the last 20-something years touring and performing on Civil War era cornets as my primary part-time "trumpet gig". It's neat to somewhat recreate the sound and look of a 19th century band, and a lot of people appreciate our performances. Authentic instruments of the period, original music, wool uniforms, etc. It's a different sound, for sure.

    That said, I'd much rather play a more modern instrument. Easier to play, more lip-friendly mouthpieces, better projection, fewer intonation issues to deal with by lipping and using alternate fingerings, water keys instead of pulling slides to empty, and so on... ;-)
  2. gsmonks

    gsmonks Piano User

    I treat my period instruments the same way I treat my piccolo trumpets- as extras, to be practised maybe a half-hour a day for maintenance purposes. Over the years I've developed a sort of shorthand practice-regimen for each that addresses their idiosyncrasies. For example, no matter how much money you spend on a high-end Eb tenor horn, they have persistent intonation issues with the 5th partial (it's a Saxhorn thing). You have to "play through" this idiosyncrasy, and if you don't do regular maintenance, working out how to deal with it, you'll get caught with your pants down.

    On that note, one of these years when I'm rich, I'm going to pay someone to make me a compensating 4-valve Eb tenor horn. And an Oktoberfest tuba with built-in beer-holder.
  3. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    Peaceful coexistence. Appreciation for the artistic efforts of old and new alike.
  4. Franklin D

    Franklin D Forte User

    May 23, 2009
    The Netherlands
  5. gsmonks

    gsmonks Piano User


    You do realise you take your life in your hands when you criticise Gould? I once had a guy threaten to punch my face for dissing Gould. It made for great theatre.

    What I find really funny is how a tiny, specialised little group of guys (us) in the greater context of society could get het about instruments and players the mainstream couldn't give a rat's arse about. I mentioned some of this in front of one of my grand-nieces, who got up from the table, and as she walked away, declared, "You guys are really boring."

    The little wart is getting a trumpet in her stocking this Christmas.
  6. Franklin D

    Franklin D Forte User

    May 23, 2009
    The Netherlands
    It's indeed funny. Years ago, in the CD era, I had a long flight from Amsterdam to Bangkok. I was carrying a portable CD player and bought on Schiphol airport a double CD, Glen Gould playing Bach. And yes, it worked perfectly. Put the CD on at take-off and they really had to revive me standing still on Don Muang, the (old) Bangkok airport. Never made it to the second CD, never.
  7. gsmonks

    gsmonks Piano User

    That is too funny.

    I was in Thailand many years ago. I was playing on a cruise ship, which was an absolutely miserable experience, and we kind of got asked to leave when we reached Australia. We made our way to South Africa, where I met my future wife (that wouldn't happen until years later), and eventually wound up in Chiang Mai in Northern Thailand, at the home of our drummer. I met his sister, we hit it off (she was extremely cute, okay, and couldn't speak a word of English), and eventually brought her to Canada.

    Well . . .

    She soon got a job at as a DJ at a Thai Karaoke club in the Greater Vancouver area, and she and I soon came to an impasse where our mutual taste in music was concerned. If I was listening to something I enjoyed, she'd stomp into the livingroom with a scowl on her face and *click*- that was the end of Mr Wagner, or any other offending composer.

    Thai women . . . they're so cute when you don't know them; so bossy when they take over your home :^)
  8. Franklin D

    Franklin D Forte User

    May 23, 2009
    The Netherlands
    Yes, all true. I personally don't think it's a good idea to take Thai people, especially the women, out of their country.
    But the climate here in Holland makes me to spend every winter a few months in Thailand (sometimes India) the last eight to ten years.
  9. gsmonks

    gsmonks Piano User

    Well, it's many years later now, and the woman in question has been working for over a decade now in some sort of Social Services capacity, and has really moved up in the world. She had some rough patches, especially with men, but two children and a number of decades later, and she's a force to be reckoned with.

    I have several friends around the world who like me are insect, arachnid, etc., enthusiasts, and several of them are currently in places like Thailand, Indonesia, Israel, India, Pakistan, etc. Unlike me, most of them are talented photographers, so when they're in places like Thailand, they're not there for the purpose of meeting women. They're generally in the bush looking for exotic salticidae (jumping spiders), to photograph and post on-line. Or whatever else they can find.

    There's a mania about jumping spiders, especially dancing Peacock spiders, right now. They're incredibly cute, colourful, and amusing:
  10. gunshowtickets

    gunshowtickets Forte User

    Mar 11, 2015
    Tidewater, VA

    Reply with quote to see how I formatted that embedded video.

    I've had too many spider bites too consider them "cute".
    The ones that amaze me are the orb spiders that inhabit a chemical plant I call on to perform vibration analysis. They build their webs all over the process buildings and are eventually covered in monomer dust, it's surreal at the end of the summer.

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