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  1. BigDub

    BigDub Utimate User

    Dec 19, 2009
    Hillsborough, NJ
    Well, I wouldn't call it inappropriate, but they are actually just reading their part written for F horn. There is no transposing needed for them. I think their issue is hearing where they need to place the initial note. They tend to over or under shoot it. I play it so they can have an idea where it should be.
  2. N1684T

    N1684T Mezzo Forte User

    Jun 28, 2016
    I have an idea about what is involved in Transposing. Thats it, just an idea;) A year ago, when printing out music after being transposed into Bb, i saw notes that i had never seen in my life. Like a low Db. Played around with a small tuner a little bit and was blown away by the realization that a Db was a C# You could actually see the light bulb over my head illuminate;) Man what i would have given for a small portable tuner then;) The few i remember in Band class were the size of a 6 slice toaster;)

    I assume thats because all the music i had in school was already written in Bb?
  3. Dennis78

    Dennis78 Fortissimo User

    Feb 1, 2015
    My first experience in transposing was earlier this year during an actual performance at a church

    I’d toyed with it before but nothing serious.

    I really struggled that morning
  4. BigDub

    BigDub Utimate User

    Dec 19, 2009
    Hillsborough, NJ
    It can become second nature when enough repetition is done.
    One time in a church service 3 of us were playing hymns from the book, in Concert key, so, we were transposing. Quite normal and, routine. So.......
    We provided a special trio number shortly after leaving the hymnbooks. Got up to play, and with our ( for this ) Bb Trumpet music, and lo and behold, one of us transposed the first note......out of habit. Quickly this resolved itself after the initial shock of dissonance! It was funny. I always say, better to blow a wrong note on the first note than on the last.
    People forget what happened when you play for a few minutes!
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2017
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  5. Pinstriper

    Pinstriper Mezzo Forte User

    Nov 26, 2013
    I solved the problem by just buying a mellophone, in F. No more transposition !

    I will say it requires a brain adjustment, because yeah, the pitch in your head is one thing on a Bb instrument, and quite another on an F. I do find myself overshooting here and there. It's a matter of more practice time to get those notes in my head.

    I still sometimes hear C in the key of my old G bugle. Neural pathways are hard to break.
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  6. BigDub

    BigDub Utimate User

    Dec 19, 2009
    Hillsborough, NJ
    All makes sense to me. I once had access to a mellophone, and found it extremely easy to both read the music ( of course ) and placement of the pitch came easily with little time for adjustment.
    It also was nice to play with a trumpet mouthpiece, and endurance was better and easier he chops by far.
  7. kehaulani

    kehaulani Fortissimo User

    May 14, 2011
    Hawaian homey
    I played alto horn a year in Germany with a French horn mouthpiece. No one ever knew for the better and were also wowed at the high notes I hit easily, LOL. Duuh.

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