Tired chops

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  1. Hey_Pauly

    Hey_Pauly New Friend

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    I've been playing a lot lately. Tonight my chops are tired, especially my top lip. I think I will put the horn away until tomorrow.

    One question (because what good would a thread be without a question), should the tiredness be more evenly spread out between the top and bottom lips? When I play I really feel the vibration from my top lip and I can feel that part of my lip now. Should I be looking at my technique?

    I hope this makes sense. :dontknow:
     
  2. s.coomer

    s.coomer Forte User

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    With your question I wonder how much pressure you are using. You don't mention anything about how your corners feel. I find that the corners will feel it long before the lip.
     
  3. Hey_Pauly

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    My corners feel tired when I go to play for sure but my lip feels tired after I put the horn down.
     
  4. coolerdave

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    I wish I could remember who posted this but it is a golden nugget
    When you feel you can't articulate cleanly or attack it's time to rest.

    I would guess you are pushing past that point and using pressure instead or your corners.. hence the sore lip
     
  5. Hey_Pauly

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    I think I see what you are saying, I need to build up the muscles in the corner of my mouth and not compensate with pressure?
     
  6. coolerdave

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    It's hard to trying to make suggestions online... but yes that was my 2 cents.
    I have just started playing (almost 2 months now) after not playing for 20+ years and I over practiced a few times.. not fun ... so I went back to resting alot... much better ... and faster improvement as well.
    I am sure there will be more post on this .. by some really great players
     
  7. Hey_Pauly

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    What you have said makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the info.

    BTW, I love your signature! Mind if I steal it? :lol:
     
  8. coolerdave

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    lolol.. not at all ... trade 'em ..collective 'em
     
  9. keehun

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    I've noticed that as tired I got, my upper notes came out with much more ease and effortlessness (with MUCH better tone than my usual), but that was at the cost of the corners giving out very quickly.

    I was thinking I had to build the corners up more significantly and then I could somehow train myself to play as if I was very tired. (Effortlessness) Because when I'm tired and I force the high notes even a little bit, they don't come out. And in middle of rehearsal of Tchaikovsky's Slav March on 1st Tromba, I had to play... so I made it effortless (even if I had to skip a note here and there to relax my corners)... Hmm... interesting original question
     
  10. Hey_Pauly

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    I found this video on You Tube
     

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