hi,, Tedh1951 thank you very much dad printed that for me . Bob thank you also i will look up the trumpet players you have recommended and the web site. Dad says i need to move this post ,but he does not know where ? Also we need to apologize to Flugelnoob for using her post . I have hit that note before on my powerbore with a Getzen deluxe ML,mouthpiece , but i did not know it , but i need to find it again, its not easy practice makes perfect . any ideas ?