Tranpostion book

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  1. cobragamer

    cobragamer Pianissimo User

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    I am wondering if anyone has a copy of Broiles: Have Trumpet . . . Will Transpose (C. Colin). I am looking for it to get some insight on transposition and also add it to my method book collection. If you aren't willing to part with it I understand.
     
  2. rowuk

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    Each of my students had to find their own way to transposition. Some read intervals, some read clefs, I use a combination.

    In school I would sub on tuba(sousaphone) or baritone horn bass clef. My girlfriend played alto saxophone and one day I discovered that bass clef baritone was the same as Eb transposition. C transposition was always thinking intervals, D was a combination and the rest came out of necessity.

    What I am saying, is that EVERY book is insight to transposition. I don't want to part with any of my books though.

    The best transposition insight was the will to play duets with my girlfriend - also at church! I transcribed the Eb parts for her, played the C parts myself. Writing also strengthens our sense of intervals and purpose.
     
  3. cobragamer

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    Would anyone be willing to copy me some pages out of it since it is being used for student purposes anyways.
     
  4. Ed Lee

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    It is my belief that most transposition for Bb trumpet is from concert C music. For me this has been as simple as adding 2 # to key signature and raising the notes two semi tones (half steps). Most of the time I just sight read this.

    As I have the ability to play the bass brass also, I actually have to write out any transposition to Eb tuba and a BBb Sousaphone, and now I am regretting the recent sale of my C tuba on the premise that I now have no aspiration to play the same in a symphony orchestra, chamber group or quintet.
     
  5. cobragamer

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    Unfortunately, there is more transpositions that trumpets have to learn than up a step. Up and down a half, whole, minor third, then up a third, fourth and even a tri-tone. It just depends on what kind music needs to be played. Thanks for the responses guys.If I cant find a copy of this book whether online or through our schools interlibrary loan system then I am wondering if someone here would have access to a copy of it since it is relatively old book and is out of print.
     
  6. Ed Lee

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    Very true if you desire to, or need to change keys, tranposition gets tricky but meaningful. I've found a lot of the concert C music to be bland on the Bb trumpet, vis Carolina In The Morning by Walter Donaldson where I "kick it" from the key of C to the key of D with all the other instruments making such change also. Just make a Bb trumpet "shine more" IMO.
     
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  7. rowuk

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    The standard orchestral parts are for trumpet in A, Bb, C, D, Eb, E and F. There is a bit of opera where trumpet in G or Ab is written, but VERY seldom.

    The symphony player can transpose all of that stuff from the Bb or C.

    A good source for stuff to practice are the actual orchestral excerpts. Then you are working on the real thing. The following books ARE in print:

    Orchestral Excerpts from the Symphonic Repertoire - Voisin/Bartold - Volume 1-7

    The Essential Orchestral Excerpts - DOBRZELEWSKI - Volume 1-16

    Hofmeisters Orchesterstudien Volumes 1-3

    You can also get many of the originals (93000 scores) legally for free here: IMSLP/Petrucci Music Library: Free Public Domain Sheet Music
     

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