Transposing/conversion

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Ed Lee, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. Juarez-MA

    Juarez-MA Pianissimo User

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    Our range is similar. :S
     
  2. Vulgano Brother

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    16th Century, 1529. The original rhythm is different than most all American hymnbooks.
     
  3. Vulgano Brother

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    Using A = 440 as a reference, an A# is 466.164 and Ab is 414.305. Another cool read: No. 1305: A=440
     
  4. Ed Lee

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    Ain't no clef on it at all! I purposely put the " A=435.7" out there as even a dummy like me knows it is lower than "A=440" even if I weren't to hold a college major in math. Yeah, you're right, the 1500s is the 16th Century, but I'm putting such as just the break-a-way point from plain song and chant in religious music.
     
  5. Juarez-MA

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    Do I get brownie points for being able to read treble, alto, tenor, bass clef, and neumes?!
     
  6. Vulgano Brother

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    No neumes is good neumes.
     
  7. Dale Proctor

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    Ok, I guess I didn't understand your question...
     
  8. kehaulani

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    I'm not sure I understand the premise. "...as I play them, many just don't sound right on my Bb instruments." What's your comparison, Ed? They can only sound not right in comparison to how you have otherwise heard them, right? What is that "otherwise"?
     
  9. Buck with a Bach

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    As opposed to maybe on a piano?:dontknow::oops:
     
  10. Ed Lee

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    VB posted likeness of what I have of Luther's 1529 version of A Mighty Fortress Is Our God and my playing it through all the modern concert keys, Major and minor it just doesn't sound right. Then I take a look at page 259 of the 1990 Ed of The Presbyterian Hymnal set in rhythmic to the phrases or page 260 set in isometric neither of which designate a concert key or time signature, but I can play through either of these, preferring p259 over p260, being slower and IMO more dynamically majestic, but recognize the latter as somewhat more like an evangelical "foot stomper" common to the pump organs of the late 1800s thru early 1900s. Now the setting of the music in the concert key of C with 4/4 time of the 1975 Baptist Hymnal p37, an identical duplicate in the Methodist hymnal replete with fermatas, a pick-up quarter note and an ending measure of a dotted half note, lookin' good until ... they closed the bars ... / measures at the end of each line, continuing on the next grand stave. Well, the whole of the 1975 Baptist Hymnal is online played on an organ. My commentary/critique of this performance rendition is that it is bland and seemingly perfunctory.
     

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