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  1. T-Money

    T-Money New Friend

    Jun 21, 2014
    I'm having trouble doing the C to D trill (middle C and d). I have tried to speed my air and start off slow and gradually speed up. As I speed up I usually get the reverse D to C or just C and Bb. How can I get past my crazy trumpet problems.
  2. trickg

    trickg Utimate User

    Oct 26, 2003
    Have you stopped to consider why this trill is difficult? The reason lies in the nature of where those two notes lie in partials on the horn. Bb/B/C lie on one, D/Eb/E/F lie on the one above, so in order to successfully do that trill correctly, you're going to have to work it slowly and repetitiously, because you are going to have to shift partials at the same time you are shifting fingering. At least that's been my experience.
  3. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    We start with quarter notes: C-D-C-D-C-D, then 8ths, then triplet 8ths, then 16th, then triplet 16ths. Start slowly and gradually work up speed. There simply are things with the trumpet that you cannot decide how long that they take. The problem is the coordination of chop activity to hand movement as TrickG explained.

    This question comes up always when we start to work on the Hummel - if Clarke Technical studies were not part of our training.
  4. limepickle

    limepickle Piano User

    Aug 30, 2013
    Dallas, TX
    If you can slur from C to D comfortably when there is no trill, then really
    the only problem is that you are mentally not thinking D when you press the
    first valve. You are just expecting it to play D naturally like in other places.
    The problem is that unlike in other places, trills are happening so fast that your chops
    tend to want to laze out and stay in the same partial, which is the Bb like TrickG said. That
    means that you have to make a more deliberate effort mentally to play a D
    on the up parts of the trill.

    Personally, I find it easier to think of it as going up from C to D rather than down from
    D to C, no matter which note it starts on. That way, your body does not get confused
    and want to continue going down to Bb.

    The other issue is that adding more valves generally increases the amount of resistance you feel
    from the horn. Be mindful of that fact and adjust your air flow accordingly.

    Lastly, if you cannot play a C to D slur comfortably, you just need to practice lip slurs more, because
    trills are just high frequency lip slurs as Rowuk implied. It's more difficult to slur up to notes than to
    tongue up to notes because the partial differences always want to get in your way. Keep that in mind
    if you start getting frustrated.
  5. mchs3d

    mchs3d Mezzo Forte User

    Sep 30, 2005
    Provo, UT
    All I have to say is James Stamp Warm-Ups. #5 or 6 I think

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