Trumpet Cornet - the Difference

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  1. Sethoflagos

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    Gautrot Catalogue, 1867

    Which is the cornet, 359 or 360?
     
  2. Cornyandy

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    They look to me like bugle. cornet, flugelly hybrid thing, natural trumpet and trumpet, but that is just a guess.
     
  3. Ed Lee

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    For some rationale, in my mind, I can vision and hear ancient valveless trumpeters performing like bell peelers, each playing the required note their instrument makes in a sequential order. I daresay for needed number of valved trumpeters to do the same successfully today would be an art form.
     
  4. trumpetsplus

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    Ah - just like the singing dogs records of the 50s!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zERQ4v6BwZc&spfreload=10
     
  5. FireandAir

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    Isn't this where the habit of having four horns -- high/low/high/low -- comes from, so they can each use a different crook?
     
  6. scottfsmith

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    One sociological point not mentioned so far is that the trumpet had a close connection with royalty for hundreds of years, and was a big part of what a trumpet symbolized. For this reason the trumpet was the "iPhone" and the cornet was the "Android" of the early 20th century: one is more upper-class and one is more for the masses. Make a cornet look and behave a bit more trumpet-like, call it a "trumpet" to get the royal seal of approval, and everyone has to have one.

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  7. Dale Proctor

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    Looks like an assortment of field trumpet, cornopean, reverse-wrap cornet, herald trumpet, and orchestral cornet/trumpet.
     
  8. TrumpetMD

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    Hey Scott! I see we are both from Maryland.

    I'm not sure what's more controversial ... trumpet vs cornet, or android vs iphone? :-)

    I can't speak for the past. But today, I would say that the trumpet is more for the masses, and the cornet is a bit more parochial.

    Mike
     
  9. Sethoflagos

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    So if you add perinet valves to a natural trumpet, it turns into a cornet?

    That's certainly a novel perspective, Dale :-)
     
  10. Dale Proctor

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    I think #359 looks a lot like the horns the Hitler Youth used...

    That said, I qualified my post with "in the U.S.". Who knows what sort of crazy crap the French came up with over the years...:lol:
     

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