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Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by trumpetsplus, Jan 31, 2015.
Gautrot Catalogue, 1867
Which is the cornet, 359 or 360?
They look to me like bugle. cornet, flugelly hybrid thing, natural trumpet and trumpet, but that is just a guess.
For some rationale, in my mind, I can vision and hear ancient valveless trumpeters performing like bell peelers, each playing the required note their instrument makes in a sequential order. I daresay for needed number of valved trumpeters to do the same successfully today would be an art form.
Ah - just like the singing dogs records of the 50s!
Isn't this where the habit of having four horns -- high/low/high/low -- comes from, so they can each use a different crook?
One sociological point not mentioned so far is that the trumpet had a close connection with royalty for hundreds of years, and was a big part of what a trumpet symbolized. For this reason the trumpet was the "iPhone" and the cornet was the "Android" of the early 20th century: one is more upper-class and one is more for the masses. Make a cornet look and behave a bit more trumpet-like, call it a "trumpet" to get the royal seal of approval, and everyone has to have one.
Android phone, cornet horn
Looks like an assortment of field trumpet, cornopean, reverse-wrap cornet, herald trumpet, and orchestral cornet/trumpet.
Hey Scott! I see we are both from Maryland.
I'm not sure what's more controversial ... trumpet vs cornet, or android vs iphone?
I can't speak for the past. But today, I would say that the trumpet is more for the masses, and the cornet is a bit more parochial.
So if you add perinet valves to a natural trumpet, it turns into a cornet?
That's certainly a novel perspective, Dale
I think #359 looks a lot like the horns the Hitler Youth used...
That said, I qualified my post with "in the U.S.". Who knows what sort of crazy crap the French came up with over the years...