Trumpet Playing

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by LFRoberts5, Nov 10, 2003.

  1. SteelyDan

    SteelyDan Pianissimo User

    Nov 19, 2003
    Phoenix, Az
    Just three???!!! Well, I'd have to say:
    1) Watching TV.
    2) Reading Cycle World...
    ...Oh, three things that helped! Well, that's a different list entirely. In all seriousness it would have to be:
    1) Finding teachers/players that are open to new ideas.
    2) Balanced Emboucure.
    3) Practicing with a purpose(quality not quantity.)

    Have a great day!

  2. trumplyr

    trumplyr Pianissimo User

    Oct 31, 2003
    Rochester Hills, Mi.
    As a come back player, ( about 12 years now ) the three best things were

    a) Hookimg up with my old teacher
    b) Practice, practice, practice
    c) Playing in groups and with players who are/were way better then me. Always a push to improve.
  3. DaveH

    DaveH Piano User

    Nov 27, 2003
    1. A good teacher - my best progress was made with my first, and probably best teacher many years ago.

    2. Appropriate embouchure approach - I started playing in a more lips together type embouchure "concept" and I think that was a significant step.

    3. Performance opportunities - IMO, you need the opportunity to perform to reach the "next level" so to speak. All the practice in the world won't give you that something "extra" that regular performance will do. It all sort of comes together then. Especially in a solo or small group context where you can't "hide" in a section of a large ensemble or band.

    There are other things I might mention, but these are, IMO, three of the most significant for me.
  4. Larry Gianni

    Larry Gianni Piano User

    Nov 11, 2003
    Los Angeles

    Hi all,

    Here's 3 things I learned over the years that seem to help:

    1) When you practice. focus mentally and audioly on what's comming out the bell, not whats happening behind the mouthpiece.

    Visualise yourself listening from a position infront of the trumpet , like a member of an audience, listening to yourself play.

    I don't mean mirrors which are counter-productive.

    This will let all those muscles move naturally to get the results you want, instead of the player manipulatiing them to achieve just the opposite. Most of the muscles used to play a pitch on a trumpet , can't be conciously controlled anyway.

    It's somewhat the same principle you use when you make a turn in your car. Do you consciously think of every move all the muscles in your body have to make to achieve this ( turn signal, head check, brake, gas ,rear view mirror look, hand or hand wheel turn, etc ) or do you visualize or decide where you want to go ( ie: pitch to hit ) and the rest comes naturally.

    2) Hear all the notes before you play them no matter how fast the material you are trying to play is. This is very improtant.

    3) Visualize notes ( the slot ) as you get toward the top of your range like a shape of a triangle ( not round or oblong ). When you percieve the shape of a triangle, the base is big and wideand the top is very small and pointed.
    The farther you stay toward the base of a triangle ie: slot of the note ( not flat of course) the wider the slot for the note will be and the easier it is to hit, control in and have full volume. Think of an ascending scale a triangles stacked on top of each other. As you ascend, aim for the largest part of the note ( base of triangle ) as you change notes.

    This concept will also help you relax as you ascend. Oh, by the way , high notes don't go up high above each other, they move farther out in front of you. ( that may be my 4th principle )

    The tip of a triangle is very small and pinched. I see those words used alot when talking about range problems. On the otherhand, when a great high notes are played the terms " huge " and " fat " are used , like a triangle's base.

    See my point.

    Larry Gianni

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  5. MPM

    MPM Pianissimo User

    Nov 10, 2003

    GREAT POST!!!!

    You either are a Carmine Caruso student, or know someone rather well who was .... :D ( hee hee )

    I don't know if it's been mentioned on this web site yet. Readers: Check out ... ... BUY HIS BOOK !!! It's not full of a bunch of musical examples, saying "play this exercise, then that one, and you'll be a kick ass trumpet player". Bob's book you will have and read for years. You'll be refering to it for common sence answers to trumpet playing questions for the rest of you life. I've had a copy for 3 1/2 years. I'm still reading it, and drawing from it.

  6. dauminator3

    dauminator3 Pianissimo User

    My favorite....

    Have fun and enjoy what you are doing. If playing turns into a chore, what makes you keep playing?

  7. Larry Gianni

    Larry Gianni Piano User

    Nov 11, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Well, I guess for the same reason I'm still married .

    Chore or not, someone has to do it.
  8. Larry Smithee

    Larry Smithee New Friend

    Dec 2, 2003
    In my case I just don't think I could live without the frustration.
  9. Tootsall

    Tootsall Fortissimo User

    Oct 25, 2003
    Yee HAW!
    Why keep going when it becomes a chore? Because the good times are better than the bad times, the bad times don't last that long, and there IS a realization that there are going to be bad times from time to time.

    Still, like the man said about fishing...a poor day of fishing is better than a good day at work!
  10. BaliTrumpeter

    BaliTrumpeter New Friend

    Jun 4, 2007
    Bali, Indonesia
    1) Practice
    2) Practice
    3) Practice

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