Trumpet Theory

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by garyb, Dec 2, 2010.

  1. incredibleman

    incredibleman New Friend

    Aug 28, 2009
    Calgary, AB, Canada
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  2. Markie

    Markie Forte User

    Jan 4, 2009
    Clarksburg, WV
    I'll give you Chet Atkins, but Johnny Cash? My Dad said that they used to call him "3-Chord Cash." He may have eventually developed into a solid guitar player, but I've never understood him to be anything out of the ordinary.
    Cash is an immortal, no less than Coltrane, Duke, or Beethoven.
    I remember my first Cash song(Ring of Fire) when I was probably 6 or 7 and I remember being blown away when I heard a tune called "Hurt" on his last CD.
    The man has more accolades than a bird has feathers.
    Check this out:
    This is a list of major awards won by Johnny Cash.

    Academy of Country Music

    1985 Single of the Year as part of The Highwaymen - "Highwayman"
    Americana Music Association

    2002 "Spirit of Americana" Free Speech Award
    2003 Album of the Year - "American IV: The Man Comes Around"
    2003 Artist of the Year
    Country Music Association

    1968 Album of the Year - "At Folsom Prison"
    1969 Album of the Year - "At San Quentin"
    1969 Entertainer of the Year
    1969 Male Vocalist of the Year
    1969 Single of the Year - "A Boy Named Sue"
    1969 Vocal Group of the Year with June Carter Cash
    2003 Album of the Year - "American IV: The Man Comes Around"
    2003 Single of the Year - "Hurt"
    2003 Music Video of the Year - "Hurt"
    Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum

    Inducted in 1980
    Grammy Awards

    1968 Best Country & Western Performance, Duet, Trio Or Group with June Carter Cash - "Jackson"
    1969 Best Album Notes - "At Folsom Prison"
    1969 Best Male Country Vocal - "Folsom Prison Blues"
    1970 Best Album Notes - "Nashville Skyline"
    1970 Best Male Country Vocal - "A Boy Named Sue"
    1971 Best Country Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal with June Carter Cash - "If I Were A Carpenter"
    1987 Best Spoken Word or Non-musical Album with Carl Perkins, Chips Moman. Jerry Lee Lewis, Ricky Nelson, Roy Orbison and Sam Philips - "Interviews from the Class of 55 Recording Sessions"
    1995 Best Contemporary Folk Album - "American Recordings"
    1998 Best Country Album - "Unchained"
    1998 Grammy Hall of Fame Award - "I Walk The Line"
    1998 Grammy Hall of Fame Award - "Ring of Fire"
    1999 Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award
    2001 Best Country Male Vocal - "Solitary Man"
    2003 Best Country Male Vocal - "Give My Love To Rose"
    2004 Best Short Form Video - "Hurt"
    2006 Best Boxed or Special Limited Edition Package - "The Legend"
    2008 Best Short Form Video - "God's Gonna Cut You Down"
    Kennedy Center Honors

    Awarded in 1996
    MTV Video Music Awards

    2003 Best Cinematography - "Hurt"
    Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame

    Inducted in 1977
    Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

    Inducted in 1992
    Rockabilly Hall of Fame

    115th Inductee
    Songwriters Hall of Fame

    Inducted in 1977
    National Medal of Arts

    Awarded in 2001
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  3. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

    Dec 22, 2008

    I'm not sure the OP knows what it is about! ROFL
  4. Al Innella

    Al Innella Forte User

    Aug 9, 2007
    Levittown , NY
    I don't think there are any revolutionary new approach's to trumpet playing,just more people putting these ideas in print. In the old days these gems were handed down from teacher to student,now it's put into print and marketed.
  5. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

    Dec 22, 2008
    And there are wonderful places like this!:-)
  6. tedh1951

    tedh1951 Utimate User

    Oct 18, 2007
    The Wide Brown Land
    ..... where we read absorb, sometimes mis-interperet and propogate - Musical Theory Chinese Whispers? :dontknow:
  7. trpt2345

    trpt2345 Mezzo Forte User

    May 21, 2006
    Morelia, Mexico
    Amen. I tell my students that there are only three laws for playing the trumpet:

    1) Air.

    2) Just because you have the right valve pushed down doesn't necessarily mean the right note will come out

    3) Don't work any harder than you absolutely have to.

    Hasn't changed ever.
  8. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

    Dec 22, 2008
    Looks like the OP has flown the coop. Just maybe they have proven what was theory by failing to engage immediately thus not changing ,therefore failing thereby proving conclusively and unequivocally that the "immediate negative" is fact not theory. But that's just my theory! ROFL
  9. Satchmo Brecker

    Satchmo Brecker Piano User

    Jul 19, 2010
    Brother you nailed it. Hurt just illustrates another great quality of people like JC...humility. And the video for it is just incredible. Cash is a perfect example of great music being bigger than the sum of its parts. I disagree with the poster who mentioned venn diagrams. Great music isn't just a nice combination of this + that + xyz. Some of the best music I've ever heard, and Cash is no exception, breaks the rules...might be slightly out of tune, might not be music that's transposable into a set time signature, etc. It has some kind of transcendant quality that goes beyond mere combinations of notes.
  10. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

    Mar 23, 2006
    Parts Unknown
    I agree that style can trump both pitch and rhythm, but if inconsistencies are built into the style (bending notes, playing behind the beat, going out of the changes, etc.) then the overall parameters are met and music is still being made. The Venn diagram concept still, therefore, valid.

    In Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance Robert Pirsig made a valid argument that Quality (excellence, Arete, whatever) can be divided into Romantic Quality and Classical Quality. Romantic being the surface, Classical the functioning parts.

    I contend that great players find the perfect mix, and if we are talking theory as the in the original post we need dig deeply to discover that mix.

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