"Trumpets, you're dragging......"

Discussion in 'Orchestra / Solo / Chamber Music' started by wiseone2, May 26, 2005.

  1. wiseone2

    wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Staff Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    How often have we heard that? How do you deal with the distance factor in performance?
    Or.......... another title could be" Where"s the beat" :roll:

  2. camelbrass

    camelbrass Mezzo Forte User

    Nov 5, 2003
    Dubai, UAE
    With full credit to Jim 'the Splitmeister' on TH..this is a great story:

    "A friend of mine did a course with the LSO brass section last summer and met Mauricem (Murphy). The highlight apparently was at the end when the LSO did a John Williams concert, on doing Star Wars Maurice turned round to the student who were in the wings and told them the conductor was doing the wrong tempo. BANG Maurice started playing it his tempo (the right one that is) and the whole orchestra went with him leaving the conductor have to follow him too."

    That's THE way to handle conductors who don't do what they're told.


  3. davidquinlan

    davidquinlan Pianissimo User

    ha! excellent..

    I wouldn't recommend this to anyone unless they have similar ability and "authority" as Mr Murphy!

  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Forte User

    Oct 21, 2003
    I thought Maurice took a job in Germany?
  5. tpter1

    tpter1 Forte User

    Jan 12, 2005
    Northern New York
    I remember doing the Blatter Fanfare in college. The piece calls for many (12, I think) trumpets, with some onstage and the rest spread antiphonally throughout the hall. We did this in what we call the "big" hall on campus. It seats 1200. I was one of the farthest from the stage at the back of the hall in the balcony. I had to play very much on the front of the beat to be in time; almost early or rushed. An entrance on count one was almost on the last sixteenth of the measure before.

    I am noticing on recordings of live performances with the wind ensemble that I sound a bit behind; but the conductors never mentioned it to me. But, when I'm playing, it feels in time. I will be keeping close eyes on this one; it should help me. Thanks for bringing it up, Wilmer!
  6. KJaeger

    KJaeger Pianissimo User

    Oct 27, 2004
    Colorado Springs, CO
    I am wondering if there are any particularly troublesome concert halls where one must really pay attention to a potential time delay in the sound (maybe even from one part of the stage to another)?
  7. FlugelFlyer

    FlugelFlyer Piano User

    Dec 15, 2003
    Palos Park, IL

    I couldn't hold a match to you or some of the other participants on this forum, but nonetheless I've been downright p!ssed off by directors overusing this comment. My high school director, during a rehearsal in which we were practicing Pomp & Circumc.... [mind my off-color humor, I have plenty of it], blurted out, "TRUMPETS, NO CLUE!!!" during the A section, despite the fact that I couldn't have had a better clue how to play it. That was my sophmore year.

    My senior year, I was lead trumpet on a chop brutality show, and one time I was unsure of whether to play or not, and I merely played the part to myself at an incredibly soft dynamic. The director heard it, and yelled from the stands, "MIKE! I'm not sure if you did that on purpose, but that's how soft I want the part!"

    That said, I loved my director, but sometimes I had to question his sanity. :dontknow:
  8. MalinTrumpet

    MalinTrumpet Pianissimo User

    Nov 7, 2004
    New York City
    Phil Smith told me that Leinsdorf used to say "The rear is behind".
  9. Billy B

    Billy B Pianissimo User

    Nov 5, 2004
    Des Moines, IA
    Sometimes this can be an articulation problem.

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