Tuning with lead mouthpiece?

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  1. Skelingtin

    Skelingtin New Friend

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    Hello everyone. I am a freshman at my high school and am using a Jet-Tone Custom DS B mouthpiece (yes the old version) that my private teacher gave me for our musical. The musical is Rodger's and Hammerstein's Cinderella. (I know its really not that difficult but I'm lacking in range a little and the only other player that can play the music is a sophomore so I was given 1st part as well) Anyway with this mouthpiece I can handle the music ok. I just have a HUGE issue with tuning. Typically anything past a D in the staff becomes very sharp. I still use my slides to counter but say if I play a F# with second its horrid. I also have a hard time matching up with my partner on 1st as well because its so bright. (He's on a model 37 Stead with a 5c if that's important)
    What should I do to not be sharp? I really can't switch mouthpieces because the show is coming up. I play on a Xeno with a reversed tuning slide also.
     
  2. jiarby

    jiarby Fortissimo User

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    If you have to swap mpc's to play an F# on top of the staff you got bigger problems. Should be able to do that on anything. You're just not used to the new mpc. What was wrong with whatever you used to use?
     
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  3. gmonady

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    You need to find another mouthpiece that does not constrain your embouchure.
     
  4. ultratrumpet

    ultratrumpet Piano User

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    When you raise the level of the tongue and if you contract the embouchure and you do not coordinate this with enough wind power and mouthpiece pressure you will go sharp, with a pinched sound.



    Practice tongue level exercises / lip slurs with sufficient air support.
     
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  5. Skelingtin

    Skelingtin New Friend

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    I can play a high c with my old 3c. I am not straining the least bit. I have a clear, but sharp tone when I use the mouthpiece as well. I honestly wish I wasn't given the mouthpiece because now I'm becoming to used to the ease of playing. I got the mouthpiece because I needed a little aid hitting the high D and C in a more musical manner...
     
  6. Vulgano Brother

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    Out of tune is not more musical.
     
  7. ultratrumpet

    ultratrumpet Piano User

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    While the goal is to play musically, learning to play the horn using only the musically approach, "that is" learning all there is to know about reading music, fingerings, rhythm, phrasing, and dynamics, etc. does nothing to improve your blowing of the horn. What good is music if you can't play it ? Using only the musical approach is exactly the reason why we have players missing high notes and playing sharp in the upper register. This is corrected by learning Clarke's seven basic physical elements of trumpet playing, and correctly developing them.
     
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  8. gmonady

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    You don't own the high D and C yet, this is clearly why you cannot sound it in tune with the Jettone. Don't blame the mouthpiece. The problem is with the mouth. Piece!
     
  9. BustedChops

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    Many a wise old horn players tell me slotting of high notes are closer than they seem. Keep that in mind. It sounds like your trying too hard.
     
  10. veery715

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    In the short term you can either play the new piece and try to adjust with slides or alternate fingering for the F# (123), or go back to your old one and do the best you can with the range.
    I question the thinking behind your teacher's giving you a different piece for the musical. He may intend the best, but it is always best if we work within our abilities while aiming for future development.
     

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