Ultrasonic Cleaning question - what "solution" do they/you use?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Osren, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. mrsemman

    mrsemman Piano User

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    I use "Magic Wash" from Lowes or Home Depot. The key ingredient is a Phosphoric Acid solution. Since I have the 39 gallon Ultrasonic Power unit, I use one half gallon and fill the tank. I also add a tablespoon of Dawn dish detergent.

    Gary
     
  2. veery715

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    I have a Branson 1/2 gal unit. It has a rectangular tank, about 10" by 3" so slides fit.
     
  3. BigDub

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    There are no stupid questions on TM, Doc. This is your Editor talking.......only bad grammar and spelling.........no names being mentioned here though.
     
  4. gmonady

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    Spoken like a true gentleman and a cruller. But donut let that stop you!
     
  5. mrsemman

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    The Ultrasonic Power units are steel, and while the "Tenor" model, which I have was designed for musical instruments, I believe their other units were for parts cleaning. So the answer to your question would be a tentative yes. I write tentative, because I am not familiar with all models, and do not know if there is a decibal dial for the ultrasonics or heating element, which I do not use.

    Gary
     
  6. Osren

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    I just experimented with Simple Green HD (which is actually PURPLE in color), I about 3/4 cup per gallon of water and then I shot in a squirt of Dawn Dishwashing Soap. I let my slides soak in there over night, then did a 2 minute cleaning at 90 degree (I'm still experimenting with the temp setting - don't want to get TOO hot for the lacquered parts). I was SUPER impressed that it got all the GUNK out of the bottom caps.

    Prior to the Simple Green HD concoction, I tried Vinegar and Dawn ... which was supbar (maybe I didn't use enough vinegar - I most likely didn't).

    I'm going to try some additional trumpet/cornet parts and see how they fair.

    I'm also surprised how the sound from this cleaner effects me.... it's not THAT noisey, but I seem to be picking up on the sonic waves -- got a massive headache the first few times I tried it out. NOW, I'm using ear protection and I seem to be just fine.

    Thanx for all the replies, I appreciate the input, saves me from having to "rebuild the wheel" ;)
     
  7. mrsemman

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    Orsen,

    I would be wary of soaking any parts overnight. I usually do it for about 15 minutes - and without heat- to loosen any gunk inside. Then I use the snake brush to get the stuff out.

    Recently, I did this with a 1946 Conn New York Symphony trumpet, which had extreme lacquer wear. The result was that the lacquer wrinkled like a prune.

    Gary
     
  8. rogelton

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    I used shampoo, it worked fine. Using higher T° I got the lacquer off without any chemicals. :roll:
     
  9. ultratrumpet

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    Don't be like Bix Biederbecke (1903-1931) when it comes to cleaning your horn. He never cleaned his ax because he thought a clean horn sounded "hard."

    A saxophone player told Bix, he was a note-miser and was too restrained. Bix replied," The trouble with you is you play so many notes but they mean so little."
     
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  10. gmonady

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    I guess all the fungal hyphea hanging from the brass and into the tubing would "soften" the sound.
     

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