upstream players and jazz

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  1. Riley Ratcliff

    Riley Ratcliff New Friend

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    Why do I see so many jazz players using upstream embouchures?
    I know some players use the jaw-jutting and stuff for aome extra control in certain registers and all that but NEARLY every jazz-concentrated player that I've come across lately uses this type of embouchure in nearly all of their playing.
    Might it just be an image thing? :cool:
     
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  2. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

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    Maynard was downstream even though it may look the opposite. Most of it is based on your physical characteristics and I'm not sure you can really choose. I've read promotional material for books that say you can, IF, you buy their book to learn the mysteries of the upper register. Seems you would be fighting against natural tendencies. Hopefully Rowuk will chime in.:-)
     
  3. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

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    The shape of your face determines how you play. Forget about over-analyzing this stuff and just practice.
     
  4. Riley Ratcliff

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    Just an observation
    I'm not even going to mess with that, ha
    Just want to see what everyone else thinks about this
     
  5. nieuwguyski

    nieuwguyski Forte User

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    Name some of the players, so we can see what you're talking about.
     
  6. tobylou8

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    Roy Roman is a proponent of the "Bulldog" embouchure, no pressure method but I don't want to spend $300 for it. He can play high. I think (not 100%) Doc is an upstream guy.
     
  7. Riley Ratcliff

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    I'm talking about players like andrea giuffuredi
    Perfect example of what I'm saying.
    I know that a lot don't play like that, but have you noticed how the look of this embouchure is such an "album cover" thing?
    I've just been been noticing an association between it and jazz. It's nothing big, just an observation that I wanted to share. But y'all know know what I mean right?
     
  8. tobylou8

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    I see what you mean, I just looked at his Live in Italy cover. It's a "coolness" issue I think. :cool::cool:
     
  9. Riley Ratcliff

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    Hence the " :cool: "
     
  10. Big Daddy

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    Salmon do upstream I think.
     

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