Valve guides: brass vs plastic

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  1. hhsTrumpet

    hhsTrumpet Piano User

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    Does the material of valve guides alter the sound of a horn? Has anyone experimented with this?
     
  2. nieuwguyski

    nieuwguyski Forte User

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    Yes, people have experimented with this and, unbelievably, there is still disagreement. You'd think trumpet players would... Oh yeah, I forgot who I was talking about.
     
  3. gmonady

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    They can also distroy the finish on the horn if you use poor quality material. I had this happen with my Recording, and have not used a guard since after Tom Green refurbished that horn. A year later and the horn still sparkles. I just wipe it down with a microfiber rag after using it now.
     
  4. Solar Bell

    Solar Bell Moderator Staff Member

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    I had titanium valve guides from Wayne Tenabe on my Schilke B6, they really made the horn brighter.
     
  5. Rapier

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    GUIDE! GUIDE! Not guard. I hope you are not a surgeon with eyesight that bad. :)
     
  6. gmonady

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    Ooops Nevermind.

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    You're all safe, I give the scaple to my seeing eye dog.
     
  7. Buck with a Bach

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    Uh, Dub missed this one???????:lol::dontknow::oops:
     
  8. Comeback

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    Both work fine. Some have written that brass makes for noisier action, others that plastic may have wear and tear issues. I think I read somewhere that V. Bach switched to plastic in Strads due to noise concerns, but I believe the Artisans have brass. Two of my vintage horns have brass and and have no valve noise issues. All of my more recently built horns have plastic guides - no issues there either.
    Jim
     
  9. tobylou8

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    I have both brass and plastic and as stated above, have no issues. The plastic is on both my Eternas and I've had no issues in 42+ years. Which material changes the sound and which way?
     
  10. gmonady

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    I am assuming you are refering to your trumpets, in which case, I would agree. However, if you are refering to other life aspects...:dontknow:
     

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