valve oil prices........

Discussion in 'Mouthpieces / Mutes / Other' started by gregc, Dec 6, 2005.

  1. gregc

    gregc Mezzo Piano User

    Apr 5, 2004
    New York, U.S. of A.
    Is it me, or is the cost of many (not all) valve oils getting way out of hand. I mean, $4/oz for any kind of oil seems outrageous to me. The finest 15000 mi synthetic motor oil, with all the anti-wear packages, etc, sells for less than $10/32oz.
    I'm asking, WTF??????
    .......and all along I thought the Arabs were bad!
  2. TrentAustin

    TrentAustin Fortissimo User

    Oct 28, 2003
    KC MO
    Paying for valve oil sure beats paying for a valve job, right? Last time I checked it was cheaper to oil the valves than get them replaced.


    PS: Your last line is fairly offensive, imo.
  3. bandman

    bandman Forte User

    Oct 16, 2004
    Lafayette, LA, USA
    I found a Hetman supplier on Ebay. I have enough valve oil to last 3 years, all for under $10 including shipping.
  4. trumpetmike

    trumpetmike Forte User

    Oct 11, 2004
    Farnham (a place too smal
    How true - a good valve oil might be more expensive than the oil you put in an engine, but it is still a lot cheaper than you wold have to pay the repair guy who fixes it when the valves needed rebuilding.

    You might also want to think about the amount that manufacturers are producing. Very few valve oil makers are producing the amount of oil that the engine oil makers are producing, especially when you think about the very top end valve oil producers (Hetmann, Binak, Zaja, Snake Oil, Eclipse etc) - it is a very specialised market, where the consumers don't actually use that much (please compare the amount you put in an engine each year to the amount you put on your valves - unless you flood your valves on a daily basis, I imagine that the engine comes out a great deal ahead). The producers are only making a relatively small amount, meaning that costs are going to be relatively high.

    If you don't like paying for decent valve oil, you can always go back to spit - many old-school brass banders still swear that this is the best thing for your valves. But do remember - if it all goes wrong and your valves need a major overhaul - don't go crying about it to us.

    Let me add my voice to Trent's on this one - is there any chance of leaving offensive remarks out of posts?
  5. Robert Rowe

    Robert Rowe Mezzo Piano User

    Dec 24, 2004
    You could make your own, as I do. I have about 50 horns, mostly vintage, including Martin Committees. It is incredibly frugal (and very effective). I have plenty around -- in jars, even ... easier to just dip the entire valve-piston.

    Cost? ... about 10 (ten) cents per ounce.

    Robert Rowe
  6. uatrmpt

    uatrmpt Piano User

    Nov 29, 2003
    Tuscaloosa Music, my local group of henchmen, are charging right at $6 for Al Cass (Along with $50 for a Bach mouthpiece and $39 for a Sabine chromatic tuner). Needless to say, I'm not buying anything there anymore.
  7. mrfabulous963

    mrfabulous963 Piano User

    Nov 26, 2005
  8. ebtromba

    ebtromba Pianissimo User

    the PC police strike again.

    But back on the topic, valve oil is not overpriced, because of the reasons given above.
  9. Sol

    Sol Pianissimo User

    Jan 25, 2004
    valve oil

    Lamp oil works fine. It only costs a couple of bucks for a quart. Mr. Vacchiano used to use it, so I guess if it was good enough for him....
  10. JackD

    JackD Mezzo Forte User

    Nov 30, 2003
    Manchester / London
    Haha, oh dear. No.

    And seriously, given the amount you spend on buying a trumpet (or trumpets!), mutes, and music - $4 for some oil that'll last ages is hardly the most painful part of trumpet playing!!

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