Very high volume playing

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  1. jaemard

    jaemard Mezzo Piano User

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    Small question for all you wise souls here on TM. I'm in a drum corps and I'm having to play extremely loud. My tone seems to be okay at these volumes, but the problem is there is a point when my sound just... cracks? I don't run out of air, but the sound just goes ka-put. How do I play at quadruple fortissimo+? I feel like I'm doing it wrong. And (I know this isn't the problem but might as well ask) could it possibly be a gear problem? Thanks.
     
  2. DaTrump

    DaTrump Forte User

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    It could be, there is a point at which a horn's bell "breaks" and there is nothing you can do. However, it doesn't happen as often as we think it does, most of the time it is your face that gives out. Even though you are moving some serious air, it still needs to be focused. When you lose control at higher volumes, air goes in all directions, not just through the horn and messes everything up.


    What corps are you in?



    Edit: Just relax and let your air flow freely. Don't force it out as much as let it flow out.
     
  3. gmonady

    gmonady Utimate User

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    You are just playing too loud!

    Why? What purpose does this serve?
     
  4. DaTrump

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  5. Dale Proctor

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    If you are using a shallow mouthpiece, you're probably blowing your lips hard enough to make them touch the bottom of the cup. When that happens, the vibration (and sound) stops. The cure is a slightly deeper cup, or a slightly narrower cup, or keep a firmer embouchure.
     
  6. jaemard

    jaemard Mezzo Piano User

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    I made Mandarins in November and we're off to an awesome start. You probably hit the nail on the head with the relaxation thing, still trying to figure that out....

    It serves the purpose of blending with the rest of a hornline playing at the same volume. And reaching a pressbox with said sound.

    I enjoyed that. Haven't heard their 86 show before.
     
  7. Brad-K

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    Not to highjack the thread, but what you just said hit a chord, so to speak...maybe that's why I have notes that just crap out no matter what I do. ...Would a 7C be considered shallow then?:think:
     
  8. DaTrump

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    Probably not. I haven't seen many people bottom out on a 7C. It's a medium cup.
     
  9. jiarby

    jiarby Fortissimo User

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    Play softer... no one will know.
     

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