Vibratto to Cover Weak Tone?

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  1. gmonady

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    QED Vulgano Brother; QED!!
     
  2. BigDub

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    This has risen to new heights, I must say, with a bit of bravado, I mean vibrato ....:D
     
  3. BigDub

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    Well, to add something actually relating to the subject: (yes, you read that right) the "Old School" Mexican Mariachi(sp) players really lay on the vibrato. Just saying, it doesn't make their tone any kind of a problem, just a preference and style of music they want to hear. Not my taste, it's a little excessive, but who's asking me???
     
  4. Chuck Cox

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    Chet Baker used vibrato very early in his career, then quit using vibrato pretty suddenly. I think he realized that he was masking a beautiful tone.
     
  5. gmonady

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    AND with an amateur, unrehearsed or at least unanticipated vibrato that may not be so weak and has a certain air about it I might add.
     
  6. SmoothOperator

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    Not to pick on Louis A., but it is pretty well known that he had health problems due to high pressure playing and had to take a year off, not to mention that dent in his lips, so I think its fair to say he had technique problems. He used vibrato often so maybe just maybe it was a trade off(Either be out of tune or vibratto). Too his credit there wasn't much information about proper technique then, but his music was very tasteful anyway.
     
  7. veery715

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    Actually he had to work pretty hard not to shake. Especially later on.
     
  8. SteveRicks

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    First, let me say Maynard was my trumpet hero. Top of the top. He did stuff no one else ever did or likely will ever do. I followed him fairly closely from the early 70s when his MF album was released until his death-hearing him live whenever possible. That said -and clearly stating if I could ever play half as good as Maynard did on his worse day it would be the thrill of my life -I felt (personal opinion-no flames please) that toward the end of his life, he really overused vibrato in some of his live performances. Again, while his chops at the end were far better than I could ever deam to play, I sometimes felt his broad continuous vibrato was somewhat a cover for aging. I don't blame him for it -we all do whatever it takes for us to sound our best. Just curious if anyone else seemed to feel the same.
     
  9. Chuck Cox

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    Veery, There have been a few trumpet players that we often refer to that used " self " remedies for escape from whatever they were escaping. Chet was really bummed that heroin prices had gotten to the point that it was beginning to be cost prohibitive ( I read in his biography ). On the other hand we have Miles, he never complained about the cost of heroin. I imagine that both surrounded themselves with like personalities. They lived it and they played it.
     
  10. BigDub

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    A real treat for the imagination, Doc, thanks for those thoughts........:roll:
     

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