What a...facsimile, perhaps...

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  1. ConnDirectorFan

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    O' do I see with me beautiful eyes, oh glorious copy by thou great Taiwan firm?

    Yes, I do! I perhaps think it is a Connstellation Copy in me glorious mind......

    Oh, what compliments from the factory with thy glorious Conn 4 copy?
     
  3. ConnDirectorFan

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    I was going to go with 15B Director copy, but I guess that works...
    [a few Selmer Melody Makers are marked STR-107, and this model became the STR-100 in 1983...I have a Mello Tone Taiwan herald trumpet with virtually the same valve block, and the pistons are bottom-sprung similar to Conn in even that respect...]
     
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    Didn't you share with us a York trumpet made in Taiwan, last year that looked like a Connstellation?

    I really must try to get a MusikHaus Lange Apollo trumpet, its a connstellation copy and apparently even a better horn!
     
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    I only recall a Roland Meinl "New Constellation", Roedig, DEG, and a few other KHS 28B mimics; there are some Chinese Yorks that are 38B-inspired.
    I recently archived a Gebr. Alexander that looked like a Monke, though EMO or others could have possibly made it...
     
  6. Dennis78

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    Are these copy's anywhere close to original in the way they play?
     
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    I thin the best copy's of the connstelations being made right now are by kanstul and Adam's- both not cheap but are supposed to be phenomenal horns.
     
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    The Kanstullation and Adams apparently do. These KHS horns, I have yet to find out, but the Conn 3B/6B herald copy is a nightmare...!
     
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    I often wonder how far off the import copy's of great American horns really are. Other than the valves I feel the Cecilio 3 series is a pretty good Bach copy.
     
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    Amati's older pistons aren't bad; they refer to "special acoustic brass" in their catalogs but I really wonder how "acoustic" it is...the Festival trumpet seems to be a Strad-37-inspired horn, so if I can negotiate down this price...

    Regarding KHS copies, I have a few perspectives regarding a cornet they made, that eventually became the Jupiter SCR-520 in 1983...the KHS "British-style" cornet from the late 1960s until about 1988 [they revised the design in 1986 but some old-style horns have serials dating to 1988]...

    I have the Conservarte [Kaman] version but they all share a Besson-inspired [Amati B-1040] wrap with dual tuning slides [main slide and removable knuckle for tuning in A]. It's not perfect, but it's sturdily-built, has a reasonably mellow sound with a deep mouthpiece, and the valves work well. Solid nickel inner slides were a nice surprise, and ChopsGone sums it up well with the "Revere by Stradolin" example [mine isn't marked Taiwan]:

    "In the ballpark" perhaps

    In addition to Jupiter SCR-520, I've seen it as Conservarte [Kaman], Revere by Stradolin, Swallow [KHS used to claim it as their first band inst. brand from 1957; most examples seem to be from 1969 and beyond], Melody Maker [Selmer UK branch], and Artist [or Artiste]...
     

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