I started at about 16 years old . Never played any organized band. Had an original no name horn and when my father (who played a gloriouse wooden flute) thought I may stick with it, he bought me a Selmer about 1958. I played until someone stole it about a year ago. I now play a Callet Jazz. Dropped off playihng until about 25 years ago when a guy invited me to play jam sessions, since I cannot read or know anything. I have played at the 23rd st cafe and a few other jams for the past 14 years I actually learned there by PLAYING I am now 73 years old.