I picked up a Jan Batiste a year ago - new for $179 through Sam Ash. I had to keep sending them back because of the horrible valves... the 3rd go around was the charm.... well... it still stunk... but I was not purchasing it for it's playing qualities. The horn does not play well... but serves me well when I travel. I often pull it out while on flights and practice finger exercises. I even took it to Brazil with me in September and practiced while on vacation. It's one of those horns that you just don't worry about.