What exactly is phrasing?

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  1. gmonady

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    Phrasing in spoken language IS about how you tie, accent, and pronounce syllables... like my youngest daughter has found a way to say "No" as a 3 syllable word... Now THAT's phrasing. The same is true of music. It is about how you connect the notes, where you put the breathe, and how you place accents.
     
  2. tjcombo

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    The importance of phrasing in speech or music...

    Look ahead, on the road (what's that in the distance)
    Look, ahead on the road (where did that disembodied head come from?)

    tj
     
  3. Kays

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    Phrasing with brass instruments 'can' be the last thing a brass instrumentalist will learn unfortunately.

    Players can reach a very high technical standard whilst also exhibiting poor grasp of phrasing.

    So many physical hurdles a trumpet player has to overcome in comparison to other instruments before full focus can be awarded to musicality.

    The dots on the page are a guide (often a strict guide) but mealy playing those dots perfectly does not guarantee one has performed the music requested.

    If the music you are performing does not have lyrics as a guideline for phrasing.... make some up.. good phrasing can really make the notes 3D
     
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  5. gmonady

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    AND if you do this with two trumpets at once, this would be known as paraphrasing.
     
  6. J. Jericho

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    My two cents worth... Listen to Frank Sinatra.
     
  7. gmonady

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    This advice worded well for Chris Botti as he did just that... AND played with him too. Chris has mentioned in interviews how Frank's phrasings were inspiting.
     
  8. mctrumpet98

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    If you listen to skilled musicians you'll find they don't just play the notes - they draw them, colour them and show them off to the audience. They mesh them together like the cogs in a clock, and that is what makes everything work so smoothly and elegantly. Such skill in phrasing is what makes music, music. Such skill in phrasing also requires a high level of musical maturity. It'll come naturally, in good time. You won't consciously think about phrasing because it'll just happen. And that is when you start becoming really good.
     
  9. gbshelbymi

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    Miles Davis. Pre-"Bitches Brew" please. That's phrasing in jazz trumpet. And Louis and Bix too as others have said.
     
  10. gmonady

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    You know what he is demonstrating is not actually a phrase... it is a tie. Ties can be connected as swing eighth notes or straight eight note. That constitutes the phrase. How the rhythm is pronounced. This NEEDS to be just as equally incorporated into a phrase. So I am not buying what he is selling. His software is not nearly as vital as the white and grey matter of the cortex.
     

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