What makes a trumpet and cornet different?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Kujo20, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Kujo20

    Kujo20 Forte User

    1,615
    659
    Sep 29, 2010
    So besides all the obvious, what makes a trumpet different from a cornet?
    Is it the cylindrical bore vs the conical bore? Can a trumpet be made with a cylindrical bore, or is that considered a long (model) cornet?
    ???
    Thanks,
    Kujo
     
  2. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

    Age:
    60
    12,458
    7,035
    Mar 23, 2006
    Parts Unknown
    In theory, trumpets have a much larger percentage of cylindrical tubing than cornets do, trumpets coming from the trumpet family and cornets from the horn. In practice this is often not the case and many modern cornets are trumpets with a different wrap and mouthpiece receiver. Some makers even use the same bells on both.
     
  3. Dale Proctor

    Dale Proctor Utimate User

    8,216
    7,609
    Jul 20, 2006
    Heart of Dixie
    Actually, modern trumpets are really more closely related to the cornet than to the classical trumpet. The amounts of conical tubing on each are similar, with the cornet holding a slight edge. Cornets use a smaller mouthpiece shank, so the increase in size from mouthpipe to bell is a little more than on a trumpet. The wrap and brace placement on most cornets lends itself to a more mellow tone, as do the large, more conical mouthpieces used by many on the cornet. Take a long (American) cornet and play it with a C cup mouthpiece, though, and you'll get a sound that's hard to differentiate from a trumpet.
     
  4. craigph

    craigph Piano User

    472
    20
    Mar 12, 2010
    Japan
  5. jbkirby

    jbkirby Forte User

    1,115
    159
    Sep 10, 2009
    Dothan, Alabama
    An excellent case in point is a comparison of the Conn 28A Connstellation long cornet and the 38B Connstellation trumpet. More than likely, the 38B was actually developed from the 28A with a trumpet leadpipe because otherwise, they are identical.
     
  6. Dale Proctor

    Dale Proctor Utimate User

    8,216
    7,609
    Jul 20, 2006
    Heart of Dixie
    Yes, a more verbose, scholarly version of what I already said...:lol:
     
  7. Cornet1

    Cornet1 Pianissimo User

    232
    2
    May 22, 2005
    Essex, England
    The article by Stewart is hardly the "definitive answer".

    There are three main differences;

    a) difference in mouthpiece,.....cornet uses a more conical and often deeper mpc than trumpet.

    b) difference in design,....my Sovereign has a leadpipe which tapers for at least 14 inches,...most trumpets have one aprox 7 inches long. the bell of a good quality cornet is a 'faster' taper than a trumpet,.....medium quality instrumets are made using the same component.

    c) differences between the ears of cornet players compared to trumpet users.
     
  8. Warmahorn

    Warmahorn New Friend

    14
    1
    Jul 21, 2010
    Wales
    So far - the only differnce is that trumpet can wear a Warmahorn....and the cornet will have to wait 2 more weeks+++

    Warmahorn | Facebook
     
  9. trickg

    trickg Utimate User

    6,791
    3,552
    Oct 26, 2003
    Baltimore/DC
    It was surprising to me to see that if conical vs cylindrical tubing were the differentiating factors between cornet and trumpet, respectively, that the Schilke B5 trumpet is a actually more of a cornet than the Schilke A1 cornet.
     
  10. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

    16,397
    7,513
    Dec 22, 2008
    Virginia
    Schilke B5. 75% conical! More conical than just about any cornet EVER!!
    Robb has done some breakdowns that I find intriguing. Of course it does shatter to a degree the status quo, so if you like the status quo, don't click the link, you will be sorry! SO DON'T DO IT! I AM WARNING YOU!! DON'T!!!

    Trumpet Schmumpet

    http://www.robbstewart.com/files/Trumpet_Schmumpet_abridged.htm

    The main difference is the sound.
     

Share This Page