when's the last time Bach did anything new?

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  1. jamesfrmphilly

    jamesfrmphilly Piano User

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    the north philly ghetto
    they haven't changed since i was a school boy, and that was a LONG time ago.
     
  2. trickg

    trickg Utimate User

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    They don't need to change. They are THE best selling trumpet out there, so why try to fix it if it isn't broken?

    When did Bach start offering the lightweight models and reverse leadpipes?
     
  3. jazzman54

    jazzman54 New Friend

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    Sterling Silver Bells?

    256 Bell C trumpet?

    Finger Buttons with fake precious jewls? :)

    Hevay Valve Caps ?

    Gold trim kit :)

    What else!



     
  4. gzent

    gzent Fortissimo User

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    James,

    I don't know if you caught this, but I thought I would repost it.
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    Back in January I received a very detailed answer to the question, "How have Bach Strad. trumpets changed over the years?", from Daniel C. Oberloh of Oberloh Woodwind and Brass Works. I thought you folks might find it interesting.

    "Early differences are the nickel hex braces, this changed in around 1940
    to what we are familiar with today. The next was the master tuning slide
    crook in the early 50's which was made wider on later instruments made
    in the Mt. Vernon shop after 1955. The first obvious change Selmer made
    was the rim of the bell in 1965. Elkhart bells have a round bead
    compared to the 1964 and earlier models that have the traditional French
    half round bead. The major changes made were in the early 70's. The
    first was in the way the bells were manufactured. Instead of the
    traditional funnel shape or fan pattern they used a newly developed
    flower shape that simplified the forming process and required a
    completely different approach to shaping the flair. Selmer Changed the
    way bells were bent in around 1973 using a frozen soap filler instead of
    alloy material of pitch. Around 1974 the valve casings were made in one
    piece construction instead of two, this was when the nickel-silver
    spring barrels ceased to exist on the lacquer instruments. These chances
    were made for the most part to increase production and boy did it. In a
    publication an interview with Mr. Bach stated that in his nearly forty
    years of making instruments (1924-1960) he made no more then 5500
    cornets and trumpets total. I have been unable to verify this but I
    would not be surprised if it was in deed the case. With changes in
    production technique the units manufactured grew by leaps and bounds.
    From 1924-1960 serial numbers reached around 20,000 by 1970 they were over 60,000, 1980 over 200,000 they are now well past 500,000. So, with the manufacturing changes made, the actual shape is for the most part the same but the construction, though contentious in my opinion is considerably different then that employed during the time in NewYork. I
    hope this answers some of your question."
    - Daniel C. Oberloh
    http://www.oberloh.com
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    Greg
     
  5. trpguyy

    trpguyy Piano User

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    Bach just launched the "Big Apple" trumpet, available only through Sam Ash. Silver with gold trim, and a new bell design. Very nice playing horn.
     

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