Wynton's indentation

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by chet fan, Sep 26, 2010.

  1. chet fan

    chet fan Piano User

    Jul 3, 2009
  2. Solar Bell

    Solar Bell Moderator Staff Member

    May 11, 2005
    Metro Detroit
    Who here is going to tell him???

    And we should have told Dizzy not to puff out his cheeks....

    And we have told Maynard that his mouthpiece is too far off center....

    And we should have told Al Hirt that his finger TIPS go on the valve buttons....

    And we should tell Sergei that it isn't a clarinet.......

    etc, etc...........

    We should all strive to play the trumpet as well as we can.
  3. wiseone2

    wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Staff Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2010
  4. Solar Bell

    Solar Bell Moderator Staff Member

    May 11, 2005
    Metro Detroit
    A man that plays like Wynton, how anyone criticize anything he does?
  5. chet fan

    chet fan Piano User

    Jul 3, 2009
    no no no no

    I wasnt criticising, I was jut thinkig "well if wynton uses pressure -than its no big deal afterall"

    because I have exactly the same indentation on my upper lip after playing, but it goes away after 20 minutes. And I was always worried about it

    But than I saw wynton I was somewhat releived

    Although I do not think I use excessive pressure, because my range never stops at certain note it fades -and that is the sign of proper mpc usage -as far as I understand

    That was the point of this thread
  6. RichJ

    RichJ Piano User

    Jan 16, 2008
    Northern Virginia
    A big indentation in your upper lip that takes 20 minutes to go away sounds like too much pressure to me, or not resting enough when you practice. If you played like Wynton and had Wynton's endurance, then I'd say not to worry about it.
  7. JediYoda

    JediYoda Mezzo Piano User

    Sep 25, 2010
    State of Confusion
    sheese take a look at louise Armstrong -- he has a freakin callous on one of his lips..lol
  8. R.T. Swing

    R.T. Swing Pianissimo User

    Feb 6, 2007
    Its what he says that I find interesting.
  9. lakerjazz

    lakerjazz Mezzo Piano User

    Oct 10, 2006
    About the Louis Armstrong thing-
    My trumpet teacher's father used to play down
    in the south. The story was that one time, when
    Louis was very young, he was trying to keep up with
    the others in terms of range and used way too much pressure.
    He tore the tissue on his lip, and that is why he has a flap of
    tissue on his lip. He stopped after that, but that dead flap stayed
    and it does contribute to his unique sound. However, he built
    his range without pressure, and that is how he got to where he did.

    EDIT: The indentation on Marsalis's lip is just natural to his lip. I
    know many people that have that shape that don't play trumpet.
  10. gbdeamer

    gbdeamer Forte User

    Oct 16, 2008
    In my opinion it's a mistake to make any kind of comparison between you and Wynton (or ME and Wynton, or anyone else and Wynton).

    At this stage in your evolution it would be a bad choice to say "because Wynton uses pressure, then I can".

    How much pressure he uses, how he uses it, and why he uses it are part of his total package. That package took many years and many thousands of hours to create, so for you or me to draw parallels isn't a good solution for our development needs.

    Again, just my opinion...

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