Zoom H4 Handy Recorder

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Alex Yates, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. MrClean

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    I've been playing with the Edirol. It rocks! Man, I've got some work to do - I had no idea...:shock:
     
  2. mattdalton

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    Jim,
    I know that I have a lot more work to do than you, and am getting ready to face the music (okay, the recorder).

    Have you been using the built-in mics, or the ribbon mic via a pre-amp that you mentioned earlier? Do you find the Edirol's built-in mics to be good for recording informal practice sessions?
     
  3. MrClean

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    Hi Matt,

    I have not gone to an external mic yet. The internal microphones are actually not at all bad for informal sessions. I am still waiting for some CF cards to be delivered so that I'll have more storage. A 16 bit WAV file gets you about 5 minutes on the provided card, 24 bit about half of that. If you are willing to go down to mp3, the recording times increase dramatically. I did notice that the lower the resolution, the more hiss I - I'll play with this a bit and see if this is consistent.

    I have not come close to exploring all of the features of this unit. There are a host of effects that are built into the machine, including eq, reverb, half-speed, notch filter, hum noise cut, noise reducer, "mastering", and a feature that will emulate the sound of more expensive microphones that you can apply to either the internal or external mics. They even have a tuner and a metronome built into this thing!

    It has been educational, to say the least.

    J
     
  4. mattdalton

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    Thanks, Jim. I think it is time for me to just jump in and buy one of these units.
     
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  6. Tal Katz

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    So far, I'm loving the H4. The built-in mics are great !
    I recorded myself practicing and it sounds like me.
    I couldn't hear any hiss on the recordings and I recorded myself in a small, quiet practice room.
     
  7. Alex Yates

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    I have been enjoying using this device as well. I give it a thumbs up overall for the price and ease of use. I have it mounted on a small camera tripod sitting on a table and the built in mics work just fine for practice.
     
  8. Tal Katz

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    Can you guys share your experience with placing the device in different spots of a room, or placing yourself in different spots of a room :) ?

    I tried recording myself in a big room at school and I liked it when I placed the H4 behind me, at the height of my ears. It was getting more of the sound that was coming from the wall in front of me. I really liked the sound I got that way.
    I tried various other ways, placing the H4 in front of me pointing at me, pointing the wall in front of me and pointing the ceiling but I didn't really like any of those.
     
  9. johnnyjazz

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    I would also like to know what settings and placement others are using for best results. I got my H4 a couple of days ago and tried various settings but none sound as good as I would like. I'm sure it takes a lot of experimenting to get it just right in your own room, but it would help to hear what others are doing.
    Thanks you,
    John Alfano
     
  10. Tal Katz

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    Another way I tried recording is pointing the H4 up towards the ceiling. Try both when it's above your bell and below your bell. I like the results.
    And I also tried using the Neumann U87 model in the mic settings which was interesting.
     

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