Welcome to TrumpetMaster.com

You are currently viewing our trumpet site as a guest, which gives you limited access to many features. By joining our community you will be able to post topics in our trumpet forum, place ads in our classifieds, add your upcoming event to our calendar, communicate privately with other members (PM), and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free!

We hope you will join our community today!


Go Back   TrumpetMaster > General > Trumpet Discussion


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-09-2008, 05:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
MrA2You
New Friend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Manchester UK
Posts: 39
MrA2You will become famous soon enough
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsclerus View Post
Hello everyone,

I am quite new to the trumpet field. I am currently renting a trumpet (Conn 22b) while in the learning process. I have not yet decided whether to keep it (eventually buy it from the store) or pursue another. That brings me to this question: which instrument is easier for beginners to learn and play, the trumpet or cornet? I've read the trumpet is better for jazz, but I am more incline towards classical music. Thanks!!
Hello there jsclerus.

I think you have prob answered your own question within your posting. The trumpet is indeed the instrument of choice for 99% of classical pieces (that have trumpet involvement of course) so if your leaning in the classical direction then a trumpet it should be. The cornet is a great instrument, although its deemed not as cool as the trumpet. Cornets are used in certain jazz settings and occasionally in orchestral pieces Over here in the UK the tendency is to lean towards the cornet due mainly to the tradition in brass bands. I started on cornet but moved towards trumpet (cooler!!!). Not so much big band stuff around over here but as there is still a lively brass band scene I still do play in a brass band (but play my trumpet at home more that my cornet). The music ranges from easy to extremely tricky, and I must contradict the guy who feels the orchestral stuff is more demanding. I did a spell with an orchestra and could'nt handle the 320 bars rest to play your 8 (if it floats your boat go with it, it was just not for me!!!.....Oh and the strings were/are so uptight.....IMHO....chill guys). Go with whatever instrument is required in your choice in musical style. You can always get the cornet (or trumpet) at a later date to play as an alternative and to add some variety to your playing. Good luck.
MrA2You is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 06:33 AM   #22 (permalink)
camelbrass
Mezzo Forte User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Dubai, UAE
Posts: 804
camelbrass will become famous soon enough
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

I play both but have a very distinctly different sound and style ideal for each. I find that in certain styles the cornet gets the nod and in other styles, where the musical demands are different, the trumpet has the edge. As for what is easiest...they're both difficult to play well!!


Regards,


Trevor
camelbrass is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 08:04 AM   #23 (permalink)
rowuk
Moderator
Fortissimo User
 
rowuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,881
rowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to behold
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsclerus View Post
Hello everyone,

I am quite new to the trumpet field. I am currently renting a trumpet (Conn 22b) while in the learning process. I have not yet decided whether to keep it (eventually buy it from the store) or pursue another. That brings me to this question: which instrument is easier for beginners to learn and play, the trumpet or cornet? I've read the trumpet is better for jazz, but I am more incline towards classical music. Thanks!!
The cornet is easier and equally suited for jazz. Once you get good enough, it makes sense to have one of each, then you can play everywhere!
__________________
Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
rowuk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 01:18 PM   #24 (permalink)
Darthsunshine
Piano User
 
Darthsunshine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 269
Darthsunshine has a spectacular aura about
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

As to beginners (who don't yet have a high range anyway), I think it's fair to say that slotting notes is fractionally harder on the cornet, but after that I think it comes down to bore size. Large bore leaves a lot of room for a beginner to get lost rel to tone, and is a lot more exhausting too!
Darthsunshine is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 05:45 PM   #25 (permalink)
oldlou
Mezzo Forte User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Grand Rapids, Mi.
Posts: 809
oldlou has a spectacular aura aboutoldlou has a spectacular aura about
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

Today atr community concert band rehearsal I chose to play my elderly Getzen 80 Deluxe long cornet with an Olds 7C mouthpiece in a much deleted trumpet section. Only 3 of us from an 8 instrument section were able to make it. Following the rehearsal our guest conductor, a professional trumpet player made the remark to me that we not only blended well, but, on my long solo on 'Danny Boy' he was amazed at the sweetness of my tone. This is my way of saying that with the proper mouthpiece for playing a cornet in an otherwise all trumpet section, it CAN be done. On top of which, I had fun.


OLDLOU>>
__________________
Couturier trumpet
York Master Model trumpet
York Elite trumpet
York Airflow cornet
King super 20 Master Model cornet
King Liberty trumpet
Reynolds Professional cornet
Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet
Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell
Olds Special cornet Los Angeles
B&H Sovereign cornet
G.R.Band Instr. cornet
Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet
Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet
Many others no room to list
oldlou is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 05:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
Dale Proctor
Mezzo Forte User
 
Dale Proctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Heart of Dixie
Posts: 778
Dale Proctor has a spectacular aura about
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

I've recently bought a '69 Conn Connquest short cornet, and am so far very impressed with it. It is the most versitile horn I've ever owned. With different mouthpiece selections, it will go from giving the trumpets a run for their money, to blending in a British brass band cornet section. If I could have only one horn, this (or something similar) would be it.

__________________
"Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away." - Sir Thomas Beecham

Olde Towne Brass
www.otbrass.com

Brass Band of Huntsville
www.brassbandofhuntsville.org

Last edited by Dale Proctor; 08-09-2008 at 06:01 PM.
Dale Proctor is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 04:51 AM   #27 (permalink)
chenzo
New Friend
 
chenzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: AUSTRALIA
Posts: 21
chenzo will become famous soon enough
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

Concerning the mouth piece issue you can buy a cornet to trumpet adapter
which will enable you to use the same mouth piece.
Saying that, it is a common belief that cornets are used in brass bands and require a deeper mouth piece to get that warm tone that is remnant to English brass bands. While trumpets are known for their bright sound hence shallower mouth pieces. But really a mouthpiece that is some were in between will usually do the job, the real crux of the matter is development on your sound and think in your head what sound you are after.
Cheers Chenzo

Play out of love, not fear Take care of your sound, don’t overblow Nobody can play perfectly, strive for musicality Don’t just impress people, move them!
Listen, Listen, Listen!!! Its hard to listen when you are talking Don’t take playing too seriously, its not supposed to hurt!
Make sure you remember to feed your passion and have fun
chenzo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 05:04 AM   #28 (permalink)
Hitman0042
Banned
Piano User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 287
Hitman0042 can only hope to improve
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

jsclerus im a beginner to and just thinking the same as you... in fact im in your shoes. ive hired a trumpet as well and just trying to see if i lyk it. But i get frustrated sometimes as i cant get the right sounds coming out of the trumpet and i loose air to quickly.
Hitman0042 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 03:23 PM   #29 (permalink)
jsclerus
New Friend
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3
jsclerus will become famous soon enough
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

Your comments are very insightful. My guess is that eventually, if I progress further in the field, one instrument may not be enough. For right now I have a question: I've been offered a Holton C602p cornet in pretty good condition for $125. Should I go for it and discard the Conn 22b trumpet (which will eventually cost me around $450) or keep the trumpet? Your input will be greatly appreciated.
jsclerus is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 03:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
rowuk
Moderator
Fortissimo User
 
rowuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,881
rowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to beholdrowuk is a splendid one to behold
Re: Cornet vs trumpet

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsclerus View Post
Your comments are very insightful. My guess is that eventually, if I progress further in the field, one instrument may not be enough. For right now I have a question: I've been offered a Holton C602p cornet in pretty good condition for $125. Should I go for it and discard the Conn 22b trumpet (which will eventually cost me around $450) or keep the trumpet? Your input will be greatly appreciated.
We can't honestly answer that question as we know NOTHING about the condition or playability of either of your horns. A model name is meaningless as every instrument has a history and it may have been negative from day one. Play before you pay!
__________________
Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
rowuk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Trumpet/Cornet tutin_trumpeta Trumpet Discussion 13 10-30-2008 10:25 AM
cornet vs. trumpet crowmadic Trumpet Discussion 12 06-12-2007 05:12 PM
trumpet doubling on cornet trumpetnick Orchestra / Solo / Chamber Music 10 11-22-2006 09:43 AM
Trumpet - Cornet Bag Dave Mickley Mouthpieces / Mutes / Other 2 11-06-2006 07:57 AM
trumpet or cornet Dave Mickley Trumpet Discussion 4 01-20-2006 04:15 PM


Unleash Your Anger

TrumpetMaster
Copyright 2006 TrumpetMaster.com
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:04 PM.

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v2.2.0/Links 1.01
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31