does anyone else not use the pinky ring for the right hand? - Page 2

R.A.S. · 11-05-2006, 10:11 AM

I had mine (pinky ring) taken off, since I had an injury to my right hand when I was young. I lack the dexterity to keep my pinky in there and operated the valves.
...but playing with a plunger mute is a real challenge!

rowuk · 11-05-2006, 01:38 PM

I always use mine.
I think the issue is position of your arm and hand respective to the trumpet. There are some angles that make using the hook more difficult. These angles aren't necessarily bad for your playing - only for using the hook! I have had some students with some pretty strange right hand positions however, after fixing the problem, the hook worked OK.

Alex Yates · 11-05-2006, 02:30 PM

I rest my pinky on top of the hook most of the time. I use the hook when doing mute changes and other tasks, but mostly my pinky is out.

Jon Kratzer · 11-05-2006, 03:16 PM

I generally rest mine on top of the ring or even above it. I found when playing passages that require great dexterity that not having my pinky in the ring helped greatly. This happened by accident actually, when my ring broke off of my Cornet when I was in 8th grade. It's been the same since then. I do, however, use it during the usual multitasks such as mutes, etc.

Solar Bell · 11-05-2006, 03:59 PM

In defense of us guys whose teachers did not tell them the pinky hook is just for decoration....

Al Hirt

Clifford Brown

Cat Anderson

Maynard

Patrick Hession

Some guy named Bud

I guess I was just taught the wrong way!

Trumpet 520...None of my teachers EVER said to not use it.

-cw-

Skip · 11-05-2006, 04:07 PM

Hey, if God didn't want us to use that ring/hook...., he/she would never have put it there in the first place.

P

Yeah, that's the ticket.

wiseone2 · 11-05-2006, 04:15 PM

Where do I get those Air Buds that guy is wearing?
Wilmer

Jon Kratzer · 11-05-2006, 10:05 PM

solar,

No one ever said you were wrong, well at least I didn't. Just sharing how I play personally. Everyone is different. Can't just leave it at that.

Martin Williams · 11-06-2006, 04:18 AM

Im guilty of being hypocrytical about it. When Im with a Student, I'm always trying to keep them out of it and using less pressure, and playing without the pinky hook myself.

Other times, I'll play with it about 60% of the time or more, without even thinking it.

Gogs · 11-06-2006, 05:10 AM

I always use the ring!!! I never used to at first, and it was quite uncomfortable when I first started using it, my hand was often painful after I had practiced.But somehow I resumed using it, and now my fingering(excuse the pun) technique has improved TREMENDOUSLY!!!

11-05-2006, 01:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,881	I always use mine. I think the issue is position of your arm and hand respective to the trumpet. There are some angles that make using the hook more difficult. These angles aren't necessarily bad for your playing - only for using the hook! I have had some students with some pretty strange right hand positions however, after fixing the problem, the hook worked OK. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

11-05-2006, 03:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jon Kratzer Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 149	I generally rest mine on top of the ring or even above it. I found when playing passages that require great dexterity that not having my pinky in the ring helped greatly. This happened by accident actually, when my ring broke off of my Cornet when I was in 8th grade. It's been the same since then. I do, however, use it during the usual multitasks such as mutes, etc. __________________ Seid bereit, immer bereit. http://www.jonkratzer.com - down for construction- http://www.grmouthpieces.com

11-05-2006, 03:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
Solar Bell Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 4,404	In defense of us guys whose teachers did not tell them the pinky hook is just for decoration.... Al Hirt Clifford Brown Cat Anderson Maynard Patrick Hession Some guy named Bud I guess I was just taught the wrong way! Trumpet 520...None of my teachers EVER said to not use it. -cw- __________________ Chuck Willard *The Willard of Oz* "Don't be afraid to see what you see." Ronald Reagan Last edited by Solar Bell; 11-05-2006 at 04:04 PM.

11-05-2006, 04:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Fortissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 2,511	Where do I get those Air Buds that guy is wearing? Wilmer __________________ Be sure Brain is engaged before putting Mouthpiece in gear. S.Suark 1951

11-05-2006, 10:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jon Kratzer Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 149	solar, No one ever said you were wrong, well at least I didn't. Just sharing how I play personally. Everyone is different. Can't just leave it at that. __________________ Seid bereit, immer bereit. http://www.jonkratzer.com - down for construction- http://www.grmouthpieces.com

11-05-2006, 10:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
R.A.S. Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Woodbury, Minnesota Posts: 134	I had mine (pinky ring) taken off, since I had an injury to my right hand when I was young. I lack the dexterity to keep my pinky in there and operated the valves. ...but playing with a plunger mute is a real challenge!

11-05-2006, 02:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Alex Yates Forte User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,405	I rest my pinky on top of the hook most of the time. I use the hook when doing mute changes and other tasks, but mostly my pinky is out.

11-05-2006, 04:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
Skip Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 248	Hey, if God didn't want us to use that ring/hook...., he/she would never have put it there in the first place. P Yeah, that's the ticket.

11-06-2006, 04:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
Martin Williams Pianissimo User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Columbus, Oh-hi-uh Posts: 189	Im guilty of being hypocrytical about it. When Im with a Student, I'm always trying to keep them out of it and using less pressure, and playing without the pinky hook myself. Other times, I'll play with it about 60% of the time or more, without even thinking it.

11-06-2006, 05:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
Gogs New Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 10	I always use the ring!!! I never used to at first, and it was quite uncomfortable when I first started using it, my hand was often painful after I had practiced.But somehow I resumed using it, and now my fingering(excuse the pun) technique has improved TREMENDOUSLY!!!

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