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Old 02-06-2008, 04:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Double C

I'm not sure when you saw Maynard, but I really don't think it was hard for him from the 1950's through the 70's. He would do some weird gyrations while he was doing it, but it was more about putting on a show for the audience.
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm not sure when you saw Maynard, but I really don't think it was hard for him from the 1950's through the 70's. He would do some weird gyrations while he was doing it, but it was more about putting on a show for the audience.
At the National Trumpet Symposium in Denver in 1973 Maynard played Double C's throughout the 2-hour concert, then at the end of the concert he slurred High C to Double C to Triple C.

A couple of years later my friend saw him in concert in the Boston area and Maynard played Triple C's.

There is a You-Tube video of Maynard playing Triple C's in Pagliacci.

Besides range, Maynard had lightning-fast technique that enabled him to play Be-Bop with the best of them.

Ever see the video of Maynard playing "Give It One" at twice the speed he did on the album?

Ever hear the recording from the late 1990's of Maynard playing a soft, poignant "Caruso"?

Maynard could play piano, violin, tumpet, trombone, French horn, and saxophone.
He was accepted in the French Conservatory of Music at the age of 9.

The kid here who said that Maynard was over-rated was obviously trying to make Maynard look small so that he could make himself look big.
So I say to that poster:
You say that Maynard was over-rated, but Bud herseth said that Maynard was one of the best, and I'll trust Bud Herseth's opinion over yours anytime.

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Old 02-06-2008, 04:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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At the National Trumpet Symposium in Denver in 1973 Maynard played Double C's throughout the 2-hour concert, then at the end of the concert he slurred High C to Double C to Triple C.

A couple of years later my friend saw him in concert in the Boston area and Maynard played Triple C's.

There is a You-Tube video of Maynard playing Triple C's in Pagliacci.

Besides range, Maynard had lightning-fast technique that enabled him to play Be-Bop with the best of them.

Ever see the video of Maynard playing "Give It One" at twice the speed he did on the album?

Ever hear the recording from the late 1990's of Maynard playing a soft, poignant "Caruso"?

The kid here who said that Maynard was over-rated was obviously trying to make Maynard look small so that he could make himself look big.
So I say to that poster:
You say that Maynard was over-rated, but Bud herseth said that Maynard was one of the best, and I'll trust Bud Herseth's opinion over yours anytime.

All that. On another note, I certainly miss having Mayn' around. Just having the option of seeing his band was an amazing thing. I wonder if there's going to be any kind of tribute band touring...probably someday.
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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All that. On another note, I certainly miss having Mayn' around. Just having the option of seeing his band was an amazing thing. I wonder if there's going to be any kind of tribute band touring...probably someday.
Maynard was one of the nicest guys in the world.
I remember his sense of humor in his concerts as well as I remember his trumpet playing, the times he made the other members of the band laugh out loud.
Maynard never went around bad-mouthing anyone.
Maynard always encouraged people rather than put them down.
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm liable to get crucified saying that on a trumpet forum.

Oops, I guess so!
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Haha, yeah. I cringe when I see Maynard play. He seems to really struggle, however well he hits the notes - I think he's highly overrated, but I'm liable to get crucified saying that on a trumpet forum. I'm not sure if I agree with you about Faddis though. He's a natural high note playing machine (I like to imagine him picking up the trumpet for the first time as a teenager and blowing a nonchalant high C) but I've seen some videos of his where he doesn't make it look so effortless - definitely better than MF though. Vince Demartino and Carl Saunders are the most laid back, highly technically able players I've seen.
Maynard Ferguson died in August of 2006 at 78 years old. You are right about being crucified for your unqualified remark. If you want to compare Ferguson and Faddis make sure that you compare recordings where they are of similar age. Then consider how many fine trumpet players got their start working for the "Boss". Remember that MF kept a performing jazz band alive during most of his life. He was not just the soloist up front. he played right up until the very end.

No bad words about Jon Faddis, he is a fine trumpet player and great guy, but Maynard was in a league of his own. Much of Maynards body use was show.

No, there is no way that any reasonably informed musician could call Maynard over rated. His style of playing may have been too commercial for some, but he inspired more trumpet players than anyone else with the possible exception of Maurice André.

Sorry about the flame. I just consider that remark an insult to the trumpet world.
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I hope I didn't start anything. *blush* I never thought Maynard Ferguson wasn't a great player.
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Re: Double C

Misty,
you didn't start anything. Rating players is a tough business. Calling Maynard "overrated" shows that this person has no idea about Maynards impression on the trumpet world.
Ask Wayne Bergeron what he thinks about Maynard, or Pat Hession, Nick Drozdoff...... or the hundred of other monsters who were touched by this magnificent person.
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The kid here who said that Maynard was over-rated was obviously trying to make Maynard look small so that he could make himself look big.
Way over the top.
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We all know that Maynard's years with Stan Kenton were ground breaking musical experiences in jazz history. Well, maybe some don't know. Maynard declined in his last 10 years but who wouldn't?

I have some Kenton CD's from the 1950's that I bought from Amazon. It is unbelievable what he could do.

I think Maynard could have stolen Bebop from Dizz but showed respect and stayed away from Dizz' invention.
I'll try to unload my car CD player and post the name of some incredible CD's released where Maynard played in Bebop style. Unbelievable.

The CD is titled "Maynard Ferguson, WOW!"

It has 24 tracks, all recorded between 1949 and 1956. This is the CD where I thought Maynard could out bebob Dizzy.

I bought mine off of Amazon.com
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