Double 'C' - Page 2

Vulgano Brother · 06-07-2006, 08:09 PM

When it comes to high range, I like to paraphrase Gerald Webster, who said something like: "It ain't about how high you can get up, but what you can do with it once you've got there." The Altenburg goes up to what we called a double f# back in the day, but if played correctly (like with taste, style and good intonation) nobody notices.

Tootsall · 06-07-2006, 08:36 PM

Scream machine told me he was 13. I sure wish teenagers could make up their minds!

scream machine · 06-07-2006, 08:56 PM

I did? I mean't 14. IM 14 not 15 or 13.

trpt2345 · 06-07-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulgano Brother

When it comes to high range, I like to paraphrase Gerald Webster, who said something like: "It ain't about how high you can get up, but what you can do with it once you've got there." The Altenburg goes up to what we called a double f# back in the day, but if played correctly (like with taste, style and good intonation) nobody notices.

My range is A, a couple of times I've hit a Bb. But you have to use it correctly. Trumpet in the upper register without support below is usually just shrill. In soloing I generally don't go much above D, except for a Dizzy lick I use sometimes that goes to G and a Clark Terry thing that goes to E. But that's usually just toscare the youngsters.

Michael McLaughlin.

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. So is monogamy."" Oscar Wilde

NickD · 06-09-2006, 03:13 PM

Yeah, Mike!

When I studied with Joe Daley, he wouldn't let me practice HIS stuff above high C. He was pretty adamant about it. He wanted me to think like a musician, not an athlete. I'm strill working on that!

(Joe Daley was a tenor player who taught musicians how to play jazz around Chicago - quite an amazing person).

Nick

trumpettrax · 06-09-2006, 04:16 PM

Is Jon Faddis like the god of the upper register? Are there others who play higher than he does? I'm not really up on the screamers.

Brekelefuw · 06-09-2006, 08:44 PM

Jon Faddis has nothing on Cat Anderson.

To me, Cat is the ultimate. He can play super high and loud, over Ellington's entire band, but he can also solo really well. Jon Faddis plays lots of high notes and Dizzy licks, and that is about it. Not very stimulating if you ask me.

wiseone2 · 06-09-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brekelefuw

Jon Faddis has nothing on Cat Anderson.

To me, Cat is the ultimate. He can play super high and loud, over Ellington's entire band, but he can also solo really well. Jon Faddis plays lots of high notes and Dizzy licks, and that is about it. Not very stimulating if you ask me.

Please hear Jon live. I have played next to both, Jon has to be experienced live........and by the way, Jon can play quietly in the middle and low register

Wilmer

trpt2345 · 06-09-2006, 09:45 PM

Jon Faddis is a monster and also a really good guy, he has been to the school and lent his name to our endeavors. He has spent time with some of my kids and been very helpful. And he plays real melodies in the stratosphere, he doesn't just screech. About ten years ago he came to town with a big band to do Dizzy Gillespie big band stuff, just out of sight. The trumpet section included David Spencer and Orbert Davis from around here, and Faddis truly tore up. He is now a regular with the Chicago Jazz Ensemble out of Columbia College, Bill Russo's band, so he's around a lot here in Chicago. I think to denigrate him somehow or belittle his abilities is really out of line. If you want a lead player, if you can afford him, that's where you'd go.

Michael McLaughlin

"Fate chooses our relatives, we choose our friends." Jacques DeLille

NickD · 06-10-2006, 12:33 AM

First I would agree with the notion that Jon Faddis is a remarkable musician. Live or on record, the guy can play.

What makes me uncomfortable is the notion that "this guy is better than that guy." I have no problem with comparing styles, sounds, whatever, but to say Cat is better than Jon is, in my humble opinion, like saying apples are better than oranges. Sure they have similarities - they can both play high notes - but their differences, which amount to their musical personalities, make each of them utterly unique. It seems to me the idea that the idea of one being better than another is a matter of taste - not absolute.

Peace.

Nick

06-07-2006, 08:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 3,290	When it comes to high range, I like to paraphrase Gerald Webster, who said something like: "It ain't about how high you can get up, but what you can do with it once you've got there." The Altenburg goes up to what we called a double f# back in the day, but if played correctly (like with taste, style and good intonation) nobody notices. __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

06-07-2006, 08:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
scream machine Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Woodland, AL Posts: 135	I did? I mean't 14. IM 14 not 15 or 13. __________________ "I'm not a fighting man, but I really wasted that cat."- Maynard ferguson

06-09-2006, 03:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
NickD Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago northern suburbs Posts: 861	Heh, heh! Yeah, Mike! When I studied with Joe Daley, he wouldn't let me practice HIS stuff above high C. He was pretty adamant about it. He wanted me to think like a musician, not an athlete. I'm strill working on that! (Joe Daley was a tenor player who taught musicians how to play jazz around Chicago - quite an amazing person). Nick __________________ NickD "Live Webcam Lessons Now Available with NickD" http://www.nickdrozdoff.com http://www.newyorktrumpetcompany.com http://www.myspace.com/nickdrozdoff

06-09-2006, 09:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
trpt2345 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 750	Jon Faddis is a monster and also a really good guy, he has been to the school and lent his name to our endeavors. He has spent time with some of my kids and been very helpful. And he plays real melodies in the stratosphere, he doesn't just screech. About ten years ago he came to town with a big band to do Dizzy Gillespie big band stuff, just out of sight. The trumpet section included David Spencer and Orbert Davis from around here, and Faddis truly tore up. He is now a regular with the Chicago Jazz Ensemble out of Columbia College, Bill Russo's band, so he's around a lot here in Chicago. I think to denigrate him somehow or belittle his abilities is really out of line. If you want a lead player, if you can afford him, that's where you'd go. Michael McLaughlin "Fate chooses our relatives, we choose our friends." Jacques DeLille __________________ Chicago MM

06-10-2006, 12:33 AM	#20 (permalink)
NickD Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago northern suburbs Posts: 861	uhh.. First I would agree with the notion that Jon Faddis is a remarkable musician. Live or on record, the guy can play. What makes me uncomfortable is the notion that "this guy is better than that guy." I have no problem with comparing styles, sounds, whatever, but to say Cat is better than Jon is, in my humble opinion, like saying apples are better than oranges. Sure they have similarities - they can both play high notes - but their differences, which amount to their musical personalities, make each of them utterly unique. It seems to me the idea that the idea of one being better than another is a matter of taste - not absolute. Peace. Nick __________________ NickD "Live Webcam Lessons Now Available with NickD" http://www.nickdrozdoff.com http://www.newyorktrumpetcompany.com http://www.myspace.com/nickdrozdoff

06-07-2006, 08:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Scream machine told me he was 13. I sure wish teenagers could make up their minds!

06-09-2006, 04:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
trumpettrax Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 156	Is Jon Faddis like the god of the upper register? Are there others who play higher than he does? I'm not really up on the screamers.

06-09-2006, 08:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
Brekelefuw Forte User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,082	Jon Faddis has nothing on Cat Anderson. To me, Cat is the ultimate. He can play super high and loud, over Ellington's entire band, but he can also solo really well. Jon Faddis plays lots of high notes and Dizzy licks, and that is about it. Not very stimulating if you ask me.

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